Thursday, June 27, 2013

Michael Vorris Announces a Roman Scandal



Whilst Michael Vorris makes these claims Cardinal Agostino Vallini, the Vicar of Rome denies the the stories as libellous and slanderous.

18 comments:

Amfortas said...

Michael Voris is loving every minute of this.

nickbris said...

You can't help agreeing with him on Global Warming,Eugenics ,and all the other Green Bullshit

John Kearney said...

I do not think he is loving it. But I think he is foolish to jump in to what has been only `reports` so far and nothing in the media but himself. He ended `let us pray` and we certainly should be on our knees.

Martina Katholik said...

@ John Kerney
There was a report in the German media yesterday about this issue
and here´s an Italian Media report, Video inclusive:
http://www.blitzquotidiano.it/foto-notizie/don-patrizio-poggi-pedofilia-curia-romana-carabiniere-reclutava-ragazzi-poi-1603755/

Lepanto said...

I think that Michael Voris loves the fact that we might finally be getting an understanding of the extent of the filth in the Church of which previous popes have spoken and hinted. I don't believe that he is the least bit surprised at the seriousness of these allegations, I'm certainly not. I rejoice that some of the thieves, the careerists and the disordered may be exposed and deprived of the chance to do further harm.

hughosb said...

If this be true, God help us. The Pope will need to muster all his resources to manage this one. UNLESS it is the catalyst he needs to put the broom through the curia... mmm..

IF it is true, of course. And if it is true, it may explain the empty seat at the concert.

IF it is true...

Pax.

Amfortas said...

No, it's almost as though Voris wants this and worse to be true. It fits his apocalyptic narrative which increasingly paints 99% of clergy as somehow beyond the pale. God love him.

Fr Ray Blake said...

Amfortas,
Vorris is part of the narrative Tracy Rowland speaks about, the politico-theological baggage.
On some instances he might well be right, not everything is evil, not everything the work of the devil. 'Lies and falsehoods' are not the dominant theme in the life of Christians, they are present but Christ is victorious.
Christ is the Saviour, not us, so we have to search for the good which will overcome the evil.

Crux Fidelis said...

I feel sick to my stomach every time I hear about stuff like this. It seems like we're being fed a constant drip drip drip of new allegations. When will it end?

lx54 said...

I am increasingly of the opinion that the explanation given by Pope Francis' spokesman for "empty seat" at the concert was nothing but the simple truth: there are urgent problems that require his immediate attention.

Pray not only for the victims, but also for Pope Francis and those people - civil and religious - who must confront this evil. Pray that they may remember that evil is powerless before the Cross. Utterly powerless, except for the power to convince us that it is strong, thereby leading us to inaction and despair. Christ HAS conquered.

@Amfortas: I used to feel the same way about Voris, but I think that much of it is down to his unfortunate collection of facial expressions and desperate need of a haircut. If you listen to him without looking at him, and perhaps try and imagine that someone else is speaking, his voice doesn't come across with the same subtext as his mugshot.

lx54 said...

Here we go...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-23094320

Amfortas said...

I know Voris says a lot that makes sense and needs to be said. I just find him a bit hard to take at times. This may be more about style than substance but not always.

Fred Brown said...

Crux Fidelis, this helped me to understand. Or rather, it helped me to understand not understanding (?)

http://frdenis.blogspot.co.uk/2013/06/an-end-to-being-scandalized.html?spref=fb

JARay said...

I like Michael Voris.
I think that he tells things as they are and there is no way that he is "enjoying" what he has to report.
I only hope that he is not just a Voice crying in the wilderness!

Fr Stephen said...

Fr Ray
You readers may be interested to see that the Roman authorities have arrested Patrizio Poggi (the accuser) for calumny. It is reported here in the (leftist) Repubblica: http://roma.repubblica.it/cronaca/2013/06/28/news/pedofilia_arrestato_per_calunnia_l_ex_sacerdote_patrzio_poggi-62031634/
Of course the English media continues to publish the accusations without reference to this latest fact.

Fr Ray Blake said...

Fr Stephen
Thanks, yes I noticed, I suppose the empty chair and meeting with Cardinals was about the IOR arrests today and not about sex rings, it seems as if the Card Vicar was right, that for the most part Poggi was an unhinged fabricator.

Damask Rose said...

You've shattered my delusions, Fr Ray.

"...it seems as if the Card Vicar was right, that for the most part Poggi was an unhinged fabricator."

This reads a bit like "jobs for the boys" comment to me.

Remember the last time an ex-priest had a hissy-fit - Card O'Brien got rumbled.

This is oh-so not a cover-up. No. But lets proceed with caution and wait and see. Sigh, if only Berlusconi didn't have his own troubles at the moment..., I'm sure he would have flushed this out by now.

You can tell how bad the situation is by

(1) they were selling Hosts to Satanists

(2) the ex-priest, after serving a prison sentence for pedophile crimes, seriously thought he could be reinstated by the Vatican. Wow.

I don't know. Would this priest be allowed to do penance for the rest of his life in a monastery somewhere? Would a monastery take him?

Well, lets see how quickly the Vatican, will, er, sort out the Vatican. Do you think there will be some laicizations?

JARay said...

I see that John L. Allen in his latest Report from Rome in the National Catholic Reporter has taken the line that the Police themselves have dismissed Poggi's claims and are taking no further action based on his accusations.