tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post1872362043897823593..comments2023-12-16T16:17:43.886+00:00Comments on Fr Ray Blake's Blog: Communion and DiversityFr Ray Blakehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05584140126211527252noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-66926807572503757702010-10-28T09:17:20.431+01:002010-10-28T09:17:20.431+01:00What a pity Pope Benedict was not around in 1870 a...What a pity Pope Benedict was not around in 1870 as he might have averted the considerable secession of respected and learned priests which according to Bishop Butler occurred in Germany after Vatican I. His reasonable and irenical approach was sadly lacking at that time.Independentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-5498501808801783272010-10-27T15:01:43.982+01:002010-10-27T15:01:43.982+01:00Father: were you suggesting that they might not ha...Father: were you suggesting that they might not have to accept the Second Vatican Council, as interpreted by the magisterium - i.e. free from liberal distortions?RJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13871618901190898384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-44426207123082268652010-10-27T10:49:54.596+01:002010-10-27T10:49:54.596+01:00Slightly off topic but still on a musical theme re...Slightly off topic but still on a musical theme readers may be interested to read James MacMillan's latest post on his Daily Telegraph blog - 'How trendy liturgists tried to stop my Mass being performed for the Pope'.pelerinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-27668705434998535262010-10-27T07:03:45.358+01:002010-10-27T07:03:45.358+01:00A symphony indeed, but sometimes some of the playe...A symphony indeed, but sometimes some of the players have trouble taking directions from the conductor!Terryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13560107422129799866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-10003517229283375342010-10-27T01:18:59.834+01:002010-10-27T01:18:59.834+01:00Paul X1 ???Paul X1 ???Fr Ray Blakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05584140126211527252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-62520863085049493812010-10-27T00:33:28.087+01:002010-10-27T00:33:28.087+01:00There is nothing wrong with a diversity of rites s...There is nothing wrong with a diversity of rites so long as they express Catholic belief.<br />But the easiest way to change belief is to change how it is expressed, the liturgy.<br /><br />The Neo-Modernist thinkers in the post Vatican 11 period understood this.<br />Diminish belief in the Real Presense by turning the Mass into a meal, and handling the Consecrated Host like a piece of bread.<br />Diminish belief in the Ordained Priesthood by having the altar swarm with other "ministers" such as readers, and extraordinary "distributers" of Holy Communion, and so on.<br />Its all really quite easy, and they largely succeeded.<br /><br />However the Ordinary Form of the Mass is gradually being re-sacralised, presumably under Benedict's direction, to bring it back closer to the Mass of Paul X1, to be one of two proper forms alongside the Extraordinary Form of the Mass of the Latin Rite.Jacobinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-37035786547060487742010-10-26T22:59:20.914+01:002010-10-26T22:59:20.914+01:00Thank you Fr Blake.Thank you Fr Blake.Independentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-22101283523640656432010-10-26T19:41:18.515+01:002010-10-26T19:41:18.515+01:00A problem with the faith as articulated in the doc...A problem with the faith as articulated in the document, more probably!Catholic Readernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-39882477608260452292010-10-26T17:43:03.613+01:002010-10-26T17:43:03.613+01:00Independant,
I think the SSPX might disagree that ...Independant,<br />I think the SSPX might disagree that the CCC is an adequate summation of the faith; a problem with the document not necessarily with the faith. I hope.Fr Ray Blakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05584140126211527252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-31792705142854125182010-10-26T17:30:42.314+01:002010-10-26T17:30:42.314+01:00What does subscribing "more or less" to ...What does subscribing "more or less" to the Catachism mean? Why not just subscribing? Forgive me if I am puzzled.Independentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-78331705676697533842010-10-26T17:15:32.547+01:002010-10-26T17:15:32.547+01:00I should like to add to the excellent comment made...I should like to add to the excellent comment made by RJ that they should also be playing from the same sheet of music!pelerinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-33127585091256048892010-10-26T14:57:48.802+01:002010-10-26T14:57:48.802+01:00His words suggest that the Church is like an orche...His words suggest that the Church is like an orchestra playing a symphony, unified by the conductor.<br />This requires true tolerance between the various sections, none of them trying to exaggerate their own contribution or do down the others, but each committed to the harmony of the whole.RJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13871618901190898384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-34785046746316353632010-10-26T14:49:00.248+01:002010-10-26T14:49:00.248+01:00'The polyphony of one faith': what a wonde...'The polyphony of one faith': what a wonderful and eloquent analogy!Pastor in Montehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05949810648656544072noreply@blogger.com