tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post3028004777957052856..comments2023-12-16T16:17:43.886+00:00Comments on Fr Ray Blake's Blog: Servus Servorum DeiFr Ray Blakehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05584140126211527252noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-65794604247659912412009-04-03T22:01:00.000+01:002009-04-03T22:01:00.000+01:00IPTradition being superior to the magisterium, tha...IP<BR/>Tradition being superior to the magisterium, that is Catholic arguement since VII because Tradition and Scripture are parts of Revelation (see Dei Verbum). The Magisterium is the servant of Revelation - Scripture and Tradition.Fr Ray Blakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05584140126211527252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-27602878378424208592009-04-03T19:45:00.000+01:002009-04-03T19:45:00.000+01:00Surely the argument that tradition is superior to ...Surely the argument that tradition is superior to the magisterium is an Orthodox argument. How indeed can tradition be indentified except by some living authority.<BR/><BR/>As for Popes changing the liturgy, if Emperors can do so , so can Popes. Alcuin, not a Pope or even a Bishop, reformed the Roman Rite at the behest of Charlemagne.I.P.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-81747253001294379772009-04-03T15:46:00.000+01:002009-04-03T15:46:00.000+01:00pjsandstrom,Which particular arguements?The one's ...pjsandstrom,<BR/>Which particular arguements?<BR/>The one's I hear tend to be based on the priority of Tradition.Fr Ray Blakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05584140126211527252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-9997008253727831232009-04-03T14:34:00.000+01:002009-04-03T14:34:00.000+01:00Much of the 'pro-traditionalist' (note the small '...Much of the 'pro-traditionalist' (note the small 't') arguments for 'reform of the reform' in the celebration of the liturgy is as crassly 'ultamontanist' as anything in the time of Pope Pius IX at the time of the First Vatican Council.pjsandstromnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-54849485319564322442009-04-03T11:49:00.000+01:002009-04-03T11:49:00.000+01:00I believe the story about Pius IX is to do with in...I believe the story about Pius IX is to do with inserting St. Joseph into the confiteor and canon. When asked whether he could make this change, the pontiff replied, "How can I? I am only the Pope!"<BR/><BR/>That the pope has no power to overthrow a liturgical rite, based on apostolic tradition, was already well known and accepted.Hestornoreply@blogger.com