tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post4139492758944719528..comments2023-12-16T16:17:43.886+00:00Comments on Fr Ray Blake's Blog: The Episcopal ConferenceFr Ray Blakehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05584140126211527252noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-80637447964649360652008-12-05T18:10:00.000+00:002008-12-05T18:10:00.000+00:00Gem's being nice, i'm not going to be...they have ...Gem's being nice, i'm not going to be...they have no authority whatsoever, so they must make statements in order to feel important. I'm glad that Bp. Martino from Scranton said "No USCCB document applies to my diocese"<BR/><BR/>All Bishops' conferences must be dissolved. I can't think of one thing that the conferences have done except for silence the Bishops.Joe of St. Thérèsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06506671882770822003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-89159121834992124672008-12-05T00:15:00.000+00:002008-12-05T00:15:00.000+00:00Henry, brilliant suggestion.Henry, brilliant suggestion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-7495994282350654242008-12-04T19:53:00.000+00:002008-12-04T19:53:00.000+00:00Yes! I have quoted that section to others in the p...Yes! I have quoted that section to others in the past - and it was spoken by the Holy Father in 1985...!<BR/><BR/>Here in the US I have often wished that the orthodox and gutsy bishops (Chaput, Burke, Bruskiewitz, Finn, Hermann et al.) would just 'secede' from the USCCB. Bruskiewitz has even said: "They don't speak for me!" and he was right, as the Holy Father pointed out so many years ago.<BR/><BR/>Get rid of the bureaucracy!GORhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14313101159848740722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-54812311809173506212008-12-04T17:23:00.000+00:002008-12-04T17:23:00.000+00:00The present structure of the so called Bishops Con...The present structure of the so called Bishops Conference dates from the time of the Council when such bodies were it seems to me demanded (but without the beurocracy. From 1850 onwards the Bishops of English and Wales met regularly at least once a year and sometimes twice a year. Our archives have a record of all the matters discussed at each meeting (but not usually remarks of individual bishops). Up to the time of the council the meetings were straightforward but since them the poor Bishops have to wade through a whole series of "reports" fom various bodies before they attend the meetings. Apart from some general remarks in the Catholic Press you never know exactly what happened nor the full agenda today and certainly never the full ACTA. The beurocracy seems to control everything, with dozens commmissions, spending our money and producing....paper...paper.Michael Cliftonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00568515640292864739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-58741899557609883892008-12-04T12:17:00.000+00:002008-12-04T12:17:00.000+00:00Can't they turn 39 Eccleston Square into a hostel ...Can't they turn 39 Eccleston Square into a hostel for recovering alcoholics and drug addicts?Physiocrathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13682019625346594568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-50826780945482421982008-12-04T11:55:00.000+00:002008-12-04T11:55:00.000+00:00"a kind of federation of national churches"That ma..."a kind of federation of national churches"<BR/><BR/>That made me shudder as I thought of the Anglican Communion and how badly that's doing.<BR/><BR/>I think it's time to review the brave new world of Pope Paul and start pruning some of those dead branches that failed to bear fruit.PJAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02592149546038164628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-68888756066915711332008-12-04T09:22:00.000+00:002008-12-04T09:22:00.000+00:00'The national level is not an ecclesial dimension....<B>'The national level is not an ecclesial dimension.'</B><BR/><BR/>If only that was, and is remembered and really emphasised a lot more. <BR/>There lies so very much trouble.<BR/><BR/>I wonder how many members of the clergy and faithful really think about that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-10801500496865316302008-12-04T03:08:00.000+00:002008-12-04T03:08:00.000+00:00There ya go again, Gemmie - beating around the bus...There ya go again, Gemmie - beating around the bush. You need to learn to speak your mind!!<BR/><BR/>Episcopal conferences, such as the USCCB, are just an excuse for a bunch of men to get together at fancy hotels in warm climates on our dime! Bah humbug!Adriennehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01562944653624224107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-89713234052376398662008-12-04T01:27:00.000+00:002008-12-04T01:27:00.000+00:00Dear Father Blake, A most interesting post, to w...Dear Father Blake,<BR/><BR/> A most interesting post, to which I have a question. Is it obligatory for bishops to join a national conference if they are not a part of the Church's episcopal structire?<BR/><BR/>In Christo,<BR/>Anthony BAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-40689813275754996992008-12-03T23:36:00.000+00:002008-12-03T23:36:00.000+00:00Right on. The USCCB is USELESS. Utter sludge the...Right on. The USCCB is USELESS. Utter sludge they put out re: their "pronouncemtns" on social justice issues...highly debatable backing for specific solutions when it's manifestly arguable and it's obvious to anyone with a brain that reasonable people may differ. They water down REAL issues, like fighting prochoice people and give red diaper doper baby "Catholics" wiggle room to vote for Obamanations like Obama.<BR/><BR/>An utterly useless body. The problem, of course, is rogue bishops. I begin to see the truism of "The road to hell is paved with the skulls of bishops."<BR/><BR/>Karengemoftheoceanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05521207668262592414noreply@blogger.com