tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post4738379203532277708..comments2023-12-16T16:17:43.886+00:00Comments on Fr Ray Blake's Blog: A Few Observations on a speech by the Tablet's Rome CorrespondentFr Ray Blakehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05584140126211527252noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-52428472160781181512012-11-28T12:59:50.919+00:002012-11-28T12:59:50.919+00:00Nicholas,
I suspect he would suggest voting takes ...Nicholas,<br />I suspect he would suggest voting takes place through the Tablet letters page!Fr Ray Blakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05584140126211527252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-17010231262494216512012-11-28T12:56:12.725+00:002012-11-28T12:56:12.725+00:00Mr Mickens seems to be keen on democracy in the Ch...Mr Mickens seems to be keen on democracy in the Church. Perhaps there is something to be said for the laity having more say in appointments but he seems to want to go further and presumably have referenda on points of doctrine. It was Voltaire who said that just because a majority think something is true does not mean it is true.<br /><br />But think of the practical problems. Who would have a vote? Baptised Catholics? But is not everyone who is baptised a Catholic until they apostatise by being confirmed in another church?Nicolas Bellordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08063019108964247676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-56981442002661267672012-11-27T17:09:39.777+00:002012-11-27T17:09:39.777+00:00Married Priests. That's his solution.
We'...Married Priests. That's his solution.<br /><br />We'd all have to increase our contributions by a factor of at least ten to pay for wife and family. Advocates of married clergy don't seem to be to keen on increasing the weekly fiver to £300 per month each.<br /><br />How would the couple split the presbytry were a divorce to follow?<br /><br />He seems such a harmless man 'I'm a traditionalist really'Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07913615216295077439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-21418309674924906252012-11-27T06:35:56.536+00:002012-11-27T06:35:56.536+00:00It all sounds unutterably dreary. Thanks for savin...It all sounds unutterably dreary. Thanks for saving me the job of actually listening to the whole thing. I just got about 50 minutes of my life back!Amfortashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07580253432208073322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-50390055455099546062012-11-26T23:29:27.439+00:002012-11-26T23:29:27.439+00:00"For Modernists and Liberals, Faith is is not..."For Modernists and Liberals, Faith is is not a supernatural gift of God but a cultural identity."<br /><br />Ah, the very idea that went out with the advent of the New Covenant! These people seem to be very pharisaical in that they believe their pedigree is somehow proof of their worthiness. Perish the thought that the Faith is something they should love with their whole heart, mind and strength - that it should be something they conform their lives to rather than manipulate to their own perverse fantasies.<br /><br />Poor Bobby - he's so stuck in the sixties that he hasn't noticed the world moved on and left him behind.Deacon Augustinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03549825303646357455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-60876035731154309662012-11-26T22:41:17.273+00:002012-11-26T22:41:17.273+00:00Anyone read ‘Surprised by Truth’, the stories of e...Anyone read ‘Surprised by Truth’, the stories of eleven converts to Catholicism? One of them is written by Al Kresta. He was brought up as a Catholic but drifted away from the Church and wandered in and out of various New Age movements. As a result of reading a tract he was given he” became a follower of the Jesus Christ of the Bible.” Here’s how he continues the story:<br />“I’m sometimes asked why I didn’t return to the Catholic Church at that time….Catholics I met seemed tentative and timid about their faith. The Bible spoke of Christians who were willing to risk martyrdom for their belief in Christ. The Catholics I met didn’t even seem willing to risk embarrassment for their beliefs. Another thing that disturbed me was that so many were spiritual crybabies, always grousing about the Church’s teachings on artificial contraception, divorce and remarriage, and abortion. Other Catholics I met would stress how much their Church was changing, as though they were ashamed of their past. I wanted something doctrinally solid and permanent, and as far as I could see, the Catholic Church, in those years just after Vatican II, didn’t appear to fit the bill.”<br />Maybe Mr Mickens is just a ‘spiritual crybaby’.<br />Highland Cathedralhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07519428794618769856noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-45197305306428354262012-11-26T22:39:37.794+00:002012-11-26T22:39:37.794+00:00But Romish G,
For Modernists and Liberals, Faith i...But Romish G,<br />For Modernists and Liberals, Faith is is not a supernatural gift of God but a cultural identity.Fr Ray Blakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05584140126211527252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-90729309957329574792012-11-26T21:25:20.696+00:002012-11-26T21:25:20.696+00:00I do not want to clog the com box, but I hope watc...I do not want to clog the com box, but I hope watchers notice that the second woman to ask a rabid question is dressed like an American nun. And, how ironic about the solid, Catholic women who are attending Harvard which the Episcopalian calls a Catholic womens' seminary. Arrgh...and what a bigot referring to a Latino deacon the way he did. That is horrible. Supertradmumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07829935047036023159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-7055205183434743352012-11-26T21:18:46.807+00:002012-11-26T21:18:46.807+00:00Ok I am trying to listen to this in order to say s...<i>Ok I am trying to listen to this in order to say something meaningful, but do we always have to go through an entire biography of three generations to prove we are Catholics?</i><br /><br />It's as Mark Shea says. When someone says, "I was born and raised Catholic..." it's nature's way of warning you that what is said next will be a raving farrago of nonsense.<br /><br />Now that I think about it, in my experience, me and my knuckle-dragging traditional Catholics hardly ever preface commentary identifying ourselves as Catholics; we just start promoting and defending the teachings. The listener figures it out pretty quick. Meanwhile, progressives wave "I'm Catholic" like some kind of badge of authority and yet are determined to ride the secular-leftist ideological <i>Titanic</i> all the way to the bottom.<br /><br /><br />Scott W.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-85536358667124363342012-11-26T21:12:24.200+00:002012-11-26T21:12:24.200+00:00Oh no, he got into the pro-abortion and pro-contra...Oh no, he got into the pro-abortion and pro-contraception stand of The Tablet (since Humane Vitae)which was cleverly put forward by a woman and praised the American Catholics for voting for Obama. PUHLEEZE. I feel sick as an American for this purposeful deceit. If a person does not want to get upset, do not listen to the question and answer session which is more rabid than the talk. And what a lie about the Church's social teaching.....showing it to be what it is not. And, what is this connection between abortion and women priests? Sad, sad, sad...He said the hierarchy is looking like it is clearing out the barn--yes, that is it-he obviously is not part of the remnant. I apologize for the American woman's smugness...Supertradmumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07829935047036023159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-89410633203887410932012-11-26T21:03:16.466+00:002012-11-26T21:03:16.466+00:00Scary for Mickens to say the Church is no longer &...Scary for Mickens to say the Church is no longer "Incarnational". Of course, there are many Catholics who do not understand the hierarchy of the Church and hate anything connected to Trent. What is this new agey "energy" to which he refers, and of course, he is wrong about this being Divine. This sounds very odd and quirky. <br /><br />He criticizes in generalities and blames popes and the Italians for this so-called implosion-a word he seems to be in love with-boring. What we would call this is the purification of the Church; the chaff is being separated from the wheat. Of course, this man is looking at politics rather than personal holiness. <br /><br />Of course, it is too easy to pick on the SSPX; and the TLM; yes, the Pope is "giving attention" to these groups. Ah, he refers to the horrible, rebellious and heretical priest groups, such as the Irish one in the news all the time here in Eire. <br /><br />Mickens is correct is saying that the Church is getting smaller-that is called the faithful remnant.<br /><br />Boring...and mediocre like the rest of the staff at The Tablet.Supertradmumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07829935047036023159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-76835828196622791152012-11-26T20:43:10.501+00:002012-11-26T20:43:10.501+00:00Ok I am trying to listen to this in order to say s...Ok I am trying to listen to this in order to say something meaningful, but do we always have to go through an entire biography of three generations to prove we are Catholics? Duh. My faith was handed down to me as well, but I would never invoke ancestors as part of my c.v. It seems so false. I shall try and finish the tape,as you, Father, have graciously posted it. By the way, you are not fat.Supertradmumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07829935047036023159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-50114212339639683852012-11-26T20:27:07.731+00:002012-11-26T20:27:07.731+00:00A very good and charitable commentary. A very good and charitable commentary. The Boneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10271719805983763595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-18176785716106266292012-11-26T19:59:58.873+00:002012-11-26T19:59:58.873+00:00Fr. Blake said:
"He fails to realise these d...Fr. Blake said:<br /><br />"He fails to realise these dissidents are not the voice of the future, the death rattle of the past."<br /><br />A BRIT<br />IN<br />BANGLADESH<br /><br />And the Word was made Flesh,<br />But does that really mesh,<br />With authentic faith and dialogue today?<br /><br />‘Cause at Eucharistic meal,<br />Which is no big, bloody, deal,<br />We smile and our mistakes are washed away.<br /><br />We gather round the table,<br />To hear a gospel fable<br />From Father Bob, the celebrant, divine.<br /><br />Never kneels, he always stands<br />But he runs to shake your hands,<br />Then he sits a lot, perhaps a weakened spine.<br /><br />The ladies and the girls,<br />Their ministry unfurls,<br />A Eucharistic minister’s sensation.<br /><br />With servers and the cantor,<br />They have a playful banter,<br />Then bread and wine, it’s time for celebration.<br /><br />As the people, we all sing<br />But the bells, they never ring,<br />For they took away the Words that made His Flesh…<br /><br />For a Corpus? That’s too rough,<br />There’s no need for violent stuff,<br />That’s as welcomed as a Brit in Bangladesh!Long-Skirtshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00791967605782446951noreply@blogger.com