tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post5166452691536712521..comments2023-12-16T16:17:43.886+00:00Comments on Fr Ray Blake's Blog: Smelly DogsFr Ray Blakehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05584140126211527252noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-24259000400172658452012-03-29T08:51:17.985+01:002012-03-29T08:51:17.985+01:00Yes, there are real liturgical differences between...Yes, there are real liturgical differences between the Oratory and the Cathedral (the former majors on the OF with EF trimmings and the latter majors on the OF with few trimmings) but both set high standards musically. The sounds are different as the Cathedral, after all, has a choir of men and boys whereas the Oratory has a mixed adult choir. As for outlook - both liturgically and theologically - people may be surprised by the diversity of perspectives among Oratory clergy. And the younger clergy at the Cathedral are certainly behind the Pope's reforms.<br /><br />Lastly, I do wonder if Fr Large will be a unifying leader. I recall one of his sermons leading to a walk out by some of the congregation. He has a tendency to be quite political which can be divisive.Amfortashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07580253432208073322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-82823997142710768442012-03-28T22:51:45.505+01:002012-03-28T22:51:45.505+01:00In fact the greatest threat to the choir at Westmi...In fact the greatest threat to the choir at Westminster Cathedral was the cost. When Cardinal Heenan died in 1975, the Archdiocese of Westminster was facing a great financial crisis - and axing the choir was one of the economy measures proposed.<br /><br />Fortunately Cardinal Hume had more vision than some of the bean counters.Veritasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-60039189872665360162012-03-28T22:29:47.438+01:002012-03-28T22:29:47.438+01:00Richard,
I agree, but..
I remember some priests a...Richard,<br />I agree, but..<br /><br />I remember some priests at the Cathedral saying a number of diocesan clergy (and Liturgists) wanted to be rid of the choir, which was considered elitist, stopped the laity from joining in etc but the Cathedral clergy responding by saying if we did that most of our congregation would simply decamp to the Oratory which would gift the Oratory even more influence over those who liked that sort of thing.<br /><br />It was competition rather than fraternal charity!Fr Ray Blakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05584140126211527252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-1826645619564035592012-03-28T21:16:49.879+01:002012-03-28T21:16:49.879+01:00Amen Father, brick by brickAmen Father, brick by brickSeaneinnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01506043518713550239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-68786602616404993502012-03-28T17:32:27.268+01:002012-03-28T17:32:27.268+01:00I remember reading somewhere or other that when St...I remember reading somewhere or other that when St. Philip was canonized in 1622 along with (if memory serves) Teresa of Avila and Ignatius of Loyola, Romans quipped that the pope had "canonized two Spaniards and a saint" that day!Dr. Adam DeVillehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06505315831493271933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-16284585649411109612012-03-28T17:31:28.258+01:002012-03-28T17:31:28.258+01:00Without the London Oratory I am sure the glorious ...<i>Without the London Oratory I am sure the glorious musical tradition of Westminster Cathedral would have been destroyed years ago.</i><br /><br />I think that's nonsense to be honest: the Oratory has virtually nothing to do with the Cathedral, relations aren't that much better than they were under Faber and Manning, and the musical traditions of the two places are poles apart (both are splendid but they are very different and the Oratory has nothing at all to do with the liturgy of the Cathedral, formally or informally)Richard Greenstuffnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-5731616479222272192012-03-28T17:10:53.323+01:002012-03-28T17:10:53.323+01:00We were at Cheesy Nova in February and had a wonde...We were at Cheesy Nova in February and had a wonderful Mass in the side chapel: https://twitter.com/#!/sitsio/media/slideshow?url=pic.twitter.com%2FzdYqBQIRSitsiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12410440649485944766noreply@blogger.com