tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post5292615129824153926..comments2023-12-16T16:17:43.886+00:00Comments on Fr Ray Blake's Blog: Ranjith: Reform of the ReformFr Ray Blakehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05584140126211527252noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-43486000364400995352009-02-26T13:05:00.000+00:002009-02-26T13:05:00.000+00:00Hear hear David.To be praying in the very same wor...Hear hear David.<BR/><BR/>To be praying in the very same words of saints such as St. Francis Xavier, St. Philip Neri, St. Pius X and Padre Pio is very consoling.Aduliohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00534730218402742905noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-91621727082970076022009-02-25T19:51:00.000+00:002009-02-25T19:51:00.000+00:00George,No, I'm not absolutely sure that there's mo...George,<BR/><BR/>No, I'm not absolutely sure that there's more than one reader. In fact, I hope there isn't. But you know the way it is; you hear rumours.<BR/><BR/>PHWPeterHWrighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08734936083886678494noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-71978004134935213802009-02-25T09:41:00.000+00:002009-02-25T09:41:00.000+00:00...'warn its reader(s)?' Peter, are you sure that ......'warn its reader(s)?' <BR/><BR/>Peter, are you sure that the Tablet has more than one. Just wondering in case the plural was a typo error!Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13031618301013986930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-59437531175267057662009-02-25T01:13:00.000+00:002009-02-25T01:13:00.000+00:00George :You are right, of course. A Tablet book ...George :<BR/><BR/>You are right, of course. A Tablet book review would probably be very much along those lines.<BR/><BR/>However, in order to give a balanced picture, The Tablet [which of course always tries to give a balanced view of things] would no doubt also mention the backward looking Archbishop Ranjith, the hopelessly out of touch prelate and enthusiast of the so called "Benedictine reform" which in fact was nothing other than a blatant attempt by Pope Ratzinger to turn back the clock and rewrite most of Vatican II.<BR/><BR/>This tiresome man, with all his misguided ideas about "tradition", has written the foreword to the book, so you can see The Tablet would have to do the sensible thing and warn its readers.PeterHWrighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08734936083886678494noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-20667401319029356892009-02-24T23:21:00.000+00:002009-02-24T23:21:00.000+00:00PeterHWright shame on you - Ha.. ha.. haaaa....! Y...PeterHWright shame on you - Ha.. ha.. haaaa....! You know full well that the Tablatistas will run for the hills foaming at the mouth rather than even hold let alone review a copy of this book! Anyway what possible 'spin' could they use to 'diss' this book in their rag? Perhaps something along the lines of.....<BR/><BR/>"It's The Bishop - The Inquisition all over again". <BR/><BR/>It has been alleged, says our special Tablet reporter on the ground, that Archbishop Ranjith has ordered all Parish Priests to re-install kneelers in their Churches and insist their parishioners accept the most Holy Eucharist on the tongue only. <BR/><BR/>The Tablet has been inundated with cries for help from an army of special ministers (well, er... nine actually) who simply do not know what their role is any longer as they cannot be active 'partici-pants' in the new style Latin Masses. They feel unloved, un-inclusive and excluded from church, on the 'spiritual' scrap heap so to speak, due to Ranjith's far reaching reform of the reform.<BR/><BR/>No more handing out communion insisting it goes in the hand, patting babies on the head and saying "Bless you dear... oh isn't she sweet". Smiling and grinning at the long line of communicants as they chitter chatter among themelves catching up on news waiting to receive the body and blood of Our blessed Lord Jesus Christ.<BR/><BR/>'This new instruction is divisive and has split our parish', says Poppy, an extraordinary minister in her seventies, who regularly takes communion to dear old folk at the local Bingo Hall, and manages the local pub aswell before lunchtime on a Sunday. 'They see me as their local priest sort of' says Poppy, 'and I simply don't know what I'm going to tell them about this kneeler and communion on the tongue business. I don't know any Latin and they don't neither. What's it all about and what business has this Archbishop so-and-so anyway to tell us how we should do our 'liturgy', I mean who does he think he is, what a nerve.... we was so happy before all this stuff'.Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13031618301013986930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-28880072149031155172009-02-24T23:14:00.000+00:002009-02-24T23:14:00.000+00:00Thank you Ab. Ranjith! Good to see that the Holy F...Thank you Ab. Ranjith! Good to see that the Holy Father has some supporters after all the negative press in recent weeks.<BR/><BR/>And to the rest of the Hierarchy: "What is your excuse...?"GORhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14313101159848740722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-3390261697602976462009-02-24T19:42:00.000+00:002009-02-24T19:42:00.000+00:00I wonder if The Tablet will review this book ?I wonder if The Tablet will review this book ?PeterHWrighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08734936083886678494noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-14994079136089642622009-02-24T19:22:00.000+00:002009-02-24T19:22:00.000+00:00Why oh why has it taken so long? I often wonder i...Why oh why has it taken so long? I often wonder if we had had the internet 40 years ago whether the so called 'spirit of Vat II' would ever have taken off.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-45661865188780154932009-02-24T18:45:00.000+00:002009-02-24T18:45:00.000+00:00What a great Archbishop and faithful servant of th...What a great Archbishop and faithful servant of the Church. He is 100% right on all the matters raised and I look forward to getting hold of a copy of this forthcoming book and reading the Archbishop's 'foreward'.<BR/><BR/>This for example: 'Basic concepts and themes like Sacrifice and Redemption, Mission, Proclamation and Conversion, Adoration as an integral element of Communion, and the need of the Church for salvation--all were sidelined, while Dialogue, Inculturation, Ecumenism, Eucharist-as-Banquet, Evangelization-as-Witness, etc., became more important. Absolute values were disdained'. Couldn't agree more - seen it, heard it, suffered it in many Parishes around the UK over too many years - and now at Blackfen, we have some real hope for a truely Catholic reform rooted in the most Sacred Liturgy of the Ages. The future is bright indeed! Let's not be afraid!<BR/><BR/>Oh that we had more good Shepherds like Archbishop Ranjith. Ever thought of moving to England your Grace?Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13031618301013986930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-89783036388743351782009-02-24T18:33:00.000+00:002009-02-24T18:33:00.000+00:00God bless the Holy Father and Archbishop Ranjith!A...God bless the Holy Father and Archbishop Ranjith!<BR/>And thanks Fr. for posting this piece. God bless you.Katehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08692837527315745231noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-72331923675224173602009-02-24T17:21:00.000+00:002009-02-24T17:21:00.000+00:00I think we also need to look more closely at the c...I think we also need to look more closely at the changes that were made to the prayers of the Mass - not just in the ordinary but the propers as well. It has become increasingly clear that the Consilium under Msgr Annibale Bugnini had a very clear agenda that was in many ways contrary to the <I>sensus fidelium</I> and saw their task as doctrinal although they did not represent it as such. <BR/><BR/>I once supported the 'Reform of the Reform' - but I now think the <I>Novus Ordo</I> is, in its very texts, flawed. I think the RotR might be helpful to lead the older generation which has been deluded by a false Spirit of Vatican II gently towards a greater orthopraxy and orthodoxy. <BR/><BR/>However, for myself I wish now only for the traditional Latin Mass - free from the doctrinal changes of the 1960's and free from the liturgical accretions of the 1970's. I want the Mass of my ancestors and of the Saints.Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16664129156841386638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-55131421086212194102009-02-24T15:47:00.000+00:002009-02-24T15:47:00.000+00:00He should make his comments known in every parish ...He should make his comments known in every parish and religious community. Not just in a book. It won't do any good!.beckethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00313592795305384910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-83076699389993391462009-02-24T15:36:00.000+00:002009-02-24T15:36:00.000+00:00Well said, Archbishop Ranjith! The guiding hand of...Well said, Archbishop Ranjith! The guiding hand of Pope Benedict is seen everywhere.<BR/><BR/>But I can imagine much snarling and gnashing of teeth among the Liberals! What price on Elana Curti doing a dirty on the Pope? :)Terryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13560107422129799866noreply@blogger.com