tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post5500748675434908753..comments2023-12-16T16:17:43.886+00:00Comments on Fr Ray Blake's Blog: Newman WeepingFr Ray Blakehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05584140126211527252noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-71504416900905074632010-09-28T20:14:41.080+01:002010-09-28T20:14:41.080+01:00>It would seem that he exchanged >one human ...>It would seem that he exchanged >one human predicament for >another. Ecclesiastical politics >are inter-confessional.<br /><br />True enough .Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09015745990344837357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-45235377718014867152010-09-26T14:12:59.581+01:002010-09-26T14:12:59.581+01:00Or maybe he had something in his eye : ) !Or maybe he had something in his eye : ) !Marianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08805433224633562648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-20568880796238634192010-09-23T08:51:30.778+01:002010-09-23T08:51:30.778+01:00Thanks for the correction Narwen, but I think the ...Thanks for the correction Narwen, but I think the main point stands.The situation is however much more nuanced as although he resumed contact with the old friends whom he had left and most of his close friends were converts like himself, his major detractors well after the Apologia were , in their attampts to be more catholic than the Pope, also converts. He came to have very friendly relations with the old catholic families who were not too happy with Manning and Ward.<br /><br />It would seem that he exchanged one human predicament for another. Ecclesiastical politics are inter-confessional.Independentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-70104280734690974922010-09-23T04:23:17.088+01:002010-09-23T04:23:17.088+01:00Actually what he said was that, as an Anglican, hi...Actually what he said was that, as an Anglican, his religion was dreary, but not his life, whereas as a Catholic his life was dreary, but not his religion. He wrote that around 1860, after a series of major frustrations, and before Kingsley's slander gave him the opportunity to write the "Apologia pro vita sua".Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09015745990344837357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-86079756132600104392010-09-23T00:03:08.390+01:002010-09-23T00:03:08.390+01:00Pelerin, here is the biography of convert, now Bis...Pelerin, here is the biography of convert, now Bishop Peter J Elliott <br /><br />http://www.cam.org.au/bishops/bishop-peter-elliott.htmlSharonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-39410832232709540402010-09-22T21:49:21.220+01:002010-09-22T21:49:21.220+01:00Yet Newman said that when he was an Anglican he ca...Yet Newman said that when he was an Anglican he came to dislike the religion but loved the people yet as a Catholic he loved the religion but disliked the people.Independentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-8921658839529867862010-09-22T19:35:59.544+01:002010-09-22T19:35:59.544+01:00So that's a no then - in the most classic and ...So that's a no then - in the most classic and eloquent English prose of course. And they say the Irish have have the gift of the GAB!Ma Tuckernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-90891102938060130762010-09-22T16:00:58.315+01:002010-09-22T16:00:58.315+01:00I believe it was the Anglican church at Littlemore...I believe it was the Anglican church at Littlemore, in the countryside near Oxford. The Blessed Newman's mother, who died long before his conversion, is buried in the churchyard there . So basically they were misreading his personal grief for the mother whom he loved as some sort of regret for his conversion.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09015745990344837357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-4396758278943154392010-09-22T14:34:53.322+01:002010-09-22T14:34:53.322+01:00Shane's website showing the old CTS pamphlets ...Shane's website showing the old CTS pamphlets brought back so many memories. Many were familiar to me as I had read as many as I could long before I eventually plucked up the courage to knock on a presbytery door in 1963.<br /><br />I seem to have only kept one which I re read only the other day entitled 'A Convert in a Changing Church' by Peter J. Elliott (price 6d. and dated 1969). I am so glad I kept this one as it contains many words of wisdom which are of course still relevant today.<br /><br />It was good to read that letter from Cardinal Newman and to be able to echo him about 'never having had a single doubt or misgiving that I did wrong in becoming one.' May God bless all who helped me on my path to discover the Faith.pelerinnoreply@blogger.com