tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post6229868597081241168..comments2023-12-16T16:17:43.886+00:00Comments on Fr Ray Blake's Blog: Fasting: Creating a void for ChristFr Ray Blakehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05584140126211527252noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-4552475241824271282007-02-25T22:35:00.000+00:002007-02-25T22:35:00.000+00:00Excellent post Father,I was taught no penance on S...Excellent post Father,<BR/>I was taught no penance on Sundays,... which means I can catch up on my favorite blogs! I love how you said "physical hunger creates an interior hunger." My Spiritual Father, told me that this is a good reason to wait until after Mass to have breakfast, which used to be required. <BR/><BR/>It should not have to be said, but pregnant women, and nursing mothers should not fast either. <BR/><BR/>I'll be linking to this post.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-33596424750151739082007-02-24T23:35:00.000+00:002007-02-24T23:35:00.000+00:00No, but Aid to the CHurch I.N,. is about getting ...No, but Aid to the CHurch I.N,. is about getting money, hard cash, to local churches where they can deal with crises on the ground and from the point of view of insiders. In Africa at least, it is the foreigners who are blanketing the continent with condoms. The local churches are very faithful and they know what to do with a bunch of money. Food, medicine and fresh water to start and no condoms. <BR/><BR/>Please don't give anything to CAFOD.Hilary Jane Margaret Whitehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03771332473693479830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-47331984537915135432007-02-24T20:01:00.000+00:002007-02-24T20:01:00.000+00:00I think it's a great shame that we have lost the E...I think it's a great shame that we have lost the Ember Days, the Rogation Days, and nearly all the liturgical Vigils, but CAFOD's randomly chosen 'Family Fast Days' seem to have become part of the calendar.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-76379710481906618272007-02-24T14:10:00.000+00:002007-02-24T14:10:00.000+00:00"I was told Cafod had the complete support of the ..."I was told Cafod had the complete support of the E/W heirarchy".<BR/><BR/>That just about says it all. Good men though the bishops no doubt are, they seemingly have implicit trust in the articulate people who are under their patronage or in their employment on their various committees and departments. Moreover, committee-like organisations by defnition always agree on the lowest common denominator. That is no guarantee of truth even if it is an episopal agreement.<BR/><BR/>I don't really know what the answer is in terms of getting money to morally acceptable famine relief agencies - unless there is an organisation that has direct links with the dioceses affected.<BR/><BR/>Given that funds are limited, like Athanasius, I prefer to give funds to ACN simply because I know they are morally acceptable. The money may not go directly to famine relief, but it does go to help the Church's Mission. No way would I support CAFOD in its current set-up - and I very much regret, as a life-long English Catholic, having to take that view.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-524647716677016322007-02-24T12:20:00.000+00:002007-02-24T12:20:00.000+00:00Christopher,Apart from the references you yourself...Christopher,<BR/>Apart from the references you yourself refer to on your excellent blog, I can't think of any references off the top of my head, obviously the Patria Vita has stories of buildings falling on those who fast on feastdays. Later Monastic Rules forbid fasting (and other ascetical practices), on Sundays and other festal days and seasons, though here we need to draw a distinction between fasting and abstaining. <BR/>In the Rule of St Benedict monks, unless they were sick, abstained from all four-footed creatures always. <BR/>The liturgy is the best guide to the mind of the Church, although on Sunday it is celebrated as the Resurrection Day, it is still muted, no Allel..., chants unaccompanied, purple or violet vestments, an absence of decorative elements. As the Liturgy, so our lives.Fr Ray Blakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05584140126211527252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-73247560779747248682007-02-24T10:25:00.000+00:002007-02-24T10:25:00.000+00:00"Only heretics fast on Sundays and feast days."Fat..."Only heretics fast on Sundays and feast days."<BR/><BR/>Father, I've heard this before. Do you have any references for it? I've had a bit of a look around the internet but haven't really found anything conclusive.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-87545552555147414262007-02-23T23:22:00.000+00:002007-02-23T23:22:00.000+00:00MacFasting is not to be undertaken on a Sunday but...Mac<BR/>Fasting is not to be undertaken on a Sunday but I am not too sure about abstinence..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-70223114430381206252007-02-23T23:04:00.000+00:002007-02-23T23:04:00.000+00:00Henry, I am beginning to have doubts about Cafod's...Henry, <BR/>I am beginning to have doubts about Cafod's local delivery, I had thought they work through local Churches or religious communities but this seems not to be so according to people in the parish who have family in areas Cafod works in.<BR/><BR/>I too have very grave misgivings about their ABC (Abstinence, Be faithful, Condoms) policy. When I asked for an explanation I was told Cafod had the complete support of the E/W heirarchy but received no explanation.<BR/><BR/>AID to the Church in Need doesn't seem to quite be involved in famine relief or helping the poor in the same way. <BR/><BR/>I think Cafod like the catholic adoption services and one or two other "Catholic" organisations has lost its way, in the Church but not quite of it. It seems to happen when organisations take their eye of Christ and his Church.<BR/><BR/>Like fasting, without being centred Christ and his Church, it becomes vain.Fr Ray Blakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05584140126211527252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-6385931252697100222007-02-23T22:37:00.000+00:002007-02-23T22:37:00.000+00:00Only heretics fast on Sundays and feast days*conte...<I>Only heretics fast on Sundays and feast days</I><BR/><BR/>*contented sigh* I guess that means that I get to eat a bacon sandwich on Sundays...followed by a bar of chocolate!<BR/>;-DMulier Fortishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01186202810919174492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-88853753585942752032007-02-23T22:24:00.000+00:002007-02-23T22:24:00.000+00:00CAFOD are reputedly quite good about delivering ai...CAFOD are reputedly quite good about delivering aid where it is needed without too much being lost in "overheads".<BR/><BR/>But they have done a lot of mischief by misleading people with ill-informed campaigns they have lent their support to like Jubilee 2000 and Make Poverty History.Physiocrathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13682019625346594568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-61137960017673146082007-02-23T22:15:00.000+00:002007-02-23T22:15:00.000+00:00here's another one:http://www.cwnews.com/news/view...here's another one:<BR/><BR/>http://www.cwnews.com/news/viewstory.cfm?recnum=34012Hilary Jane Margaret Whitehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03771332473693479830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-51653406513999331422007-02-23T22:13:00.000+00:002007-02-23T22:13:00.000+00:00Please, be more than "irritated" with CAFOD:http:/...Please, be more than "irritated" with CAFOD:<BR/>http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2005/feb/05020803.htmlHilary Jane Margaret Whitehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03771332473693479830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-8782686753605128732007-02-23T19:44:00.000+00:002007-02-23T19:44:00.000+00:00"I get a little irritated with Cafod". Brilliant!..."I get a little irritated with Cafod". Brilliant!<BR/><BR/>It's almost like the masonic handshake of a Catholic of a less-than-liberal persuasion when meeting a potential confrère. You should start a competition: here are a couple of alternatives:<BR/><BR/>"I do get a bit annoyed when the priest seems to decide for himself what to do at Mass."<BR/><BR/>"I wish the Bishops would seem to worry as much about our dioceses as the Third World."Ttonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15185875893212146794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-70043486867058963842007-02-23T19:08:00.000+00:002007-02-23T19:08:00.000+00:00I get irritated by CAFOD full stop. There are too ...I get irritated by CAFOD full stop. <BR/><BR/>There are too many questions raised about how they spend money and their reported advocacy of the use of condoms for me to feel comfortable giving anything to them.<BR/><BR/>There are other, more trustworthy, Catholic charities like 'Aid to the Church in Need' where one can feel safe in the knowlegde that any money raised will always be put to good moral use.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com