tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post7349426585196893552..comments2023-12-16T16:17:43.886+00:00Comments on Fr Ray Blake's Blog: Mrs T and the FannonFr Ray Blakehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05584140126211527252noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-5573245998277666692013-04-24T07:17:01.859+01:002013-04-24T07:17:01.859+01:00Why should the funeral of Mrs Thatcher set a prece...Why should the funeral of Mrs Thatcher set a precedent as that of Gladstone did not. In his case, to the disapproval of the Queen, the Prince of Wales acted as one of the bearers. Frederick Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06106669441369527118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-40866754503359387432013-04-20T10:55:01.466+01:002013-04-20T10:55:01.466+01:00What a beautiful crozier the Bishop of London has!...What a beautiful crozier the Bishop of London has!Et Expectohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04273064434098923960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-494686265841621332013-04-19T19:21:08.217+01:002013-04-19T19:21:08.217+01:00FR :your final point about noncatholics at Catholi...FR :your final point about noncatholics at Catholic funerals.<br />This has not been our family's number one funeral priority, but has been taken care of , thanks to a century-and-a-bit-old skill , called typing, and the homePC's printer.<br />I pray that as well as their not being lost , it may have been for the good of good and wellmeaning attending friends' souls.<br />(NB NO eulogies. Solid sermons.)<br />At a national level, might work, too.<br />Worth a try.<br />As for foreseeable Beeb commentaries at a national, yet Catholic event........Mike Cliffsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06405021835510775527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-78735825746393047292013-04-19T17:15:04.299+01:002013-04-19T17:15:04.299+01:00The difference between Pope Benedict and Pope Fran...The difference between Pope Benedict and Pope Francis. I never had the faintest idea what all the vestments were about, but Benedict spoke very clearly to me (he's one reason I'm back in the Church after a long absence)and to anyone else capable of concentrating for 2 minutes. Francis ,and this is not an original thought, several others have expressed it, comes across like an old-fashioned parish priest, dealing in simple matters of morality. Should the Pope really have to be doing this? Isn't it in fact the job of parish priests many of whom in my experience have given up any idea of influencing parishioners long ago?Celiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06604937234890307888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-1083742165880062682013-04-19T07:51:02.630+01:002013-04-19T07:51:02.630+01:00Pablo, you have a rather narrow view of the faith....Pablo, you have a rather narrow view of the faith. How do YOU account for the fact that the one Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church holds Moses, Elijah, and other worthies as Saints? <br /><br />Hint: I don't know what little pamphlets you've been reading, but I suggest you read something else to find the answer. Preferably the authorized catechism. <br /><br />I suggest you start here http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P29.HTM and pay special attention to #847. <br /><br />I suspect it may be nuanced to a degree that you are not customarily used to absorbing. But try and read it several times verrrry slowly, and God willing, and iffin' the crick don't rise, the light of Catholic wisdom may penetrate your skull.gemoftheoceanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05521207668262592414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-40328213553352214092013-04-19T03:17:49.987+01:002013-04-19T03:17:49.987+01:00Some years ago here in Australia a convicted drug ...Some years ago here in Australia a convicted drug dealer and non-practising Catholic was given a cathedral funeral.Victoriahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00403184829256955768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-68466683111924463232013-04-18T21:35:21.178+01:002013-04-18T21:35:21.178+01:00It is only a week ago that a funeral service was h...It is only a week ago that a funeral service was held at our local cemetery for a fellow parishoner. At one time both he and his wife were active parishoners. His wife was always a bit "odd". She ceased practicing and when her husband died she refused to have a requiem Mass for him and insisted on a "service" at the cemetery chapel. I had a Mass said for him anyway.JARayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18138004129894177863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-17350458108347398902013-04-18T21:15:28.576+01:002013-04-18T21:15:28.576+01:00In Gibraltar we only have funeral services. A Requ...In Gibraltar we only have funeral services. A Requiem Mass is then offered a few days or so later. Possibly this grew out of the need in hot countries to bury the dead quickly; even now funerals are still held on the day of death or the next; rarely later than two days at most. This service would most likely be ideal for the situation mentioned above; proper, but much less room for confusion. akp5401https://www.blogger.com/profile/16223091629880680437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-89516755672294054452013-04-18T19:50:10.082+01:002013-04-18T19:50:10.082+01:00Sixupman
The 'funeral service' that you me...Sixupman<br />The 'funeral service' that you mention might be presided over by a deacon rather than the Parish Priest.<br /><br />We had one such service recently when the Parish Priest was not available to say a Requiem Mass and presumably a stand in could not be found.<br /><br />Our Deacon, a caring and Holy man conducted a funeral service for the family.johnfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16233791349837340770noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-78806768222573494322013-04-18T18:38:16.899+01:002013-04-18T18:38:16.899+01:00Baroness Thatcher was a widow and therefore not, a...Baroness Thatcher was a widow and therefore not, at the time of her death, *in an irregular marriage*. Who are we to judge her? Doodlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10476313122409864359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-82680255311008275712013-04-18T18:36:20.704+01:002013-04-18T18:36:20.704+01:00I wish what you said were true, but don't you ...I wish what you said were true, but don't you think that the modern Catholic Church is all too accomodating to pulling off services just like the one performed for Lady Thatcher? <br /><br />Today Cardinal O'Malley is hosting an interfaith service in Boston's Holy Cross Cathedral. President Obama along with a host elite non-Catholics are within the Cathedral and fully participating in the service. I hope the Blessed Sacrament has been removed, but I somehow doubt it.<br /><br />Regarding your last line - was Thatcher really that opposed to Catholic morality? I mean both sides of the modern, western political divide are non-Catholic in their solutions. I personally think she is more Catholic than Gerry Adams.Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13835223918176453873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-33534815887999104002013-04-18T18:30:06.958+01:002013-04-18T18:30:06.958+01:00Tony Blair - it will be Westminster Cathedral, but...Tony Blair - it will be Westminster Cathedral, but without much pomp; a touchy-feely vernacular N.O. with hymns. Cherie will probably want white vestments (they like them in Liverpool). <br /><br />You probably won't get to hear the choir singing "My way".John Nolanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09027156691859606002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-61755879654823795382013-04-18T17:54:52.312+01:002013-04-18T17:54:52.312+01:00There are many great and wonderful churches to liv...There are many great and wonderful churches to live in.<br /><br />Holy Mother Church is the only one to die in.<br /><br />Outside the Church there is no salvation.<br /><br />Satan has long ago set the almost churches in place as part of his long range plan for the destruction of the Kingdom of Christ.<br /><br />Popes, Cardinals, Bishops and Priests have labored mightily to destroy Holy Mother Church to no avail.<br /><br />Our Lord is with it until the end of time.<br /><br />Let the Freemasons have their 'Churches'; even some Catholic ones.<br /><br />Our Lord knows His sheep and His sheep know Him.<br /><br />The Tridentine Mass Catholics are all about that, as well a few Catholics trapped in the Novus Ordo.<br /><br /><br />*<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Pablo the Mexicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09384415590309803327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-10248133487870529552013-04-18T17:45:08.377+01:002013-04-18T17:45:08.377+01:00At a church I sometimes hear Mass, I noted that th...At a church I sometimes hear Mass, I noted that there were to be three funerals during the following weekdays. Two were described as Requiem Masses and one as a "Funeral Service" - I am confused.Sixupmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12486627001579821658noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-89555820756359753032013-04-18T16:13:06.080+01:002013-04-18T16:13:06.080+01:00Thank you, Fr.Ray. However, (That however is NOT ... Thank you, Fr.Ray. However, (That however is NOT a "but")<br /> " As Catholics we do not have the facility to strip down our liturgy (or our theology)"<br /><br />It is alleged that a major stripping down occurred at T Blair's reception into Catholic Church.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-49436717034191773822013-04-18T15:20:09.874+01:002013-04-18T15:20:09.874+01:00Mrs Thatcher's funeral had an very interesting...Mrs Thatcher's funeral had an very interesting Christian back story.<br /><br />She specifically requested that the reading from John which included the most famous evangelising quote of all time (John 3:16) to be read by the current Prime minister whatever political party they were from.<br /><br />She knew that this was the one time that the Prime Minister was was specifically involved and that the cameras would not only be on them live, but that this would be one of the images that would be shown on news reels afterwards.<br /><br />This is why we got the repeated clip of.......<br /><br />"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life".<br /><br />She was evangelising from the grave (so to speak). I found this very moving. I even found myself thinking 'Good on you Maggie'.<br /><br />Of course, Mrs T was a solid Christian who was brought up a Methodist in Grantham.ORA PRO NOBIShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17546605493757534530noreply@blogger.com