tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post736509654510443465..comments2023-12-16T16:17:43.886+00:00Comments on Fr Ray Blake's Blog: Bubble, bubble at the TabletFr Ray Blakehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05584140126211527252noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-45138857288029713982012-01-08T08:22:19.950+00:002012-01-08T08:22:19.950+00:00@ Father Ray: don't worry, I was probably waff...@ Father Ray: don't worry, I was probably waffling anyway!<br />@ Shadowlands: I have to say that, in Brighton, at least, I've seen hats that you wouldn't be able to hide in even from Google Earth! :-)<br />The Tablet: I've now tracked down a couple of fairly recent articles - the subject of which is irrelevent here - and my immediate reaction was that the tone was snide and superior. That was my second reaction too.Gigihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13592406521067190359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-68256405373597163282012-01-05T11:59:47.914+00:002012-01-05T11:59:47.914+00:00Mischievous, malevolent and modernist - a huge pit...Mischievous, malevolent and modernist - a huge pity, because otherwise I would subscribe to it, given that it contains some good stuff on current affairs, reviews, etc.Deliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01383433319373651830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-27884652447197190442012-01-04T00:38:33.196+00:002012-01-04T00:38:33.196+00:00No Gigi,
I deleted the ones concerned with the inf...No Gigi,<br />I deleted the ones concerned with the information which I sent you.<br />But as you raise it. I think I have deleted something you said which I didn't intend to - sorry.Fr Ray Blakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05584140126211527252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-53199857945352030972012-01-03T09:45:08.285+00:002012-01-03T09:45:08.285+00:00The key to selling anything is to generate as much...The key to selling anything is to generate as much free publicity as possible,if newspapers can get this by printing garbage then they will print it.<br /><br />The Tablet certainly gets plenty of publicity and even censoring by not offering it for sale generates even more sales.<br /><br />Free advertising put Richard Branson & Anita Roddick on the map and they both turned out to be mega.<br /><br />The more we discuss the Tablet,negatively or positively the more they like it.nickbrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18412418782531527758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-46928118899404787782012-01-03T00:58:40.261+00:002012-01-03T00:58:40.261+00:00Hmm. Looking at the accounts, the Tablet's fi...Hmm. Looking at the accounts, the Tablet's financial position doesn't seem that bad.<br /><br />Last year (2010/11) the Tablet publications lost £25,000. But against that the Trust has typically at least £75,000 per year of other income, mostly investment income from its £million of investments - more than enough to keep subsidising the loss.<br /><br />Going back, it's a bit more mixed. Losses on the publication were around £25,000 in 2008/9 and 2007/8, but well over £100,000 in 2009/10, 2006/7 and 2005/6.<br /><br />Basically the Trust has enough investments to keep subsidising a £25,000 annual loss indefinitely, but not to keep subsidising a £100,000+ loss. It depends which of the recent years is going to be typical.<br /><br />One thing I did notice is that they outsourced their advertising sales after the disastrous 2009/10 loss, so perhaps that has put them back on a relatively secure financial footing.<br /><br />Of course accounts only show what happened 18 months ago, and there might be something bad coming up in the next year.<br /><br />But from what I can see, if they are going to be hit financially, enough to make them change their editorial policy, then they are going to have to be hit a lot harder than they have been recently.Richardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-16347487636271282222012-01-03T00:07:53.370+00:002012-01-03T00:07:53.370+00:00Rather alarmed at the anti-hattery, since I regula...Rather alarmed at the anti-hattery, since I regularly wear hats; big broad-brimmed ones.<br /><br />In winter they keep the rain off and keep my head warm; in summer they protect from the sun.Richardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-81070641121616116112012-01-02T17:49:22.269+00:002012-01-02T17:49:22.269+00:00All those on the list are younger than me. One is ...All those on the list are younger than me. One is really old when one is older than the Pope!Physiocrathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13682019625346594568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-20170529241552361352012-01-02T02:27:50.328+00:002012-01-02T02:27:50.328+00:00The Tablet as it currently is, would need to be de...The Tablet as it currently is, would need to be destroyed, were a Catholic paper of that name to come in to being. The Tablet is not only not a Catholic paper but virulently and spitefully anti-Catholic. It treats the Church as its enemy. It is farcical to suggest it needs reform. One might as well say the NYT could be reformed into a Catholic paper!Lyndanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-67963977767413925512012-01-02T01:08:59.886+00:002012-01-02T01:08:59.886+00:00Rossini,
One simple thing, as I say, it could lose...Rossini,<br />One simple thing, as I say, it could lose its bitchiness or spitefulness which might be a less sexist description.<br />It could start employing serious journalists who don't have "issues", Mickens for example writes continually as a failed seminarian with authority issues.<br />Maybe it needs some younger people or those who have moved on from the 1970s/80s.<br />It could start employing people who do not see the Pope as being anti-Christ and have a modicum of sympathy for, or understanding of, his theology and vision.<br /><br />But for me it is the spite that is the issue.Fr Ray Blakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05584140126211527252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-22748865250444421742012-01-02T01:08:59.677+00:002012-01-02T01:08:59.677+00:00Rossini,
One simple thing, as I say, it could lose...Rossini,<br />One simple thing, as I say, it could lose its bitchiness or spitefulness which might be a less sexist description.<br />It could start employing serious journalists who don't have "issues", Mickens for example writes continually as a failed seminarian with authority issues.<br />Maybe it needs some younger people or those who have moved on from the 1970s/80s.<br />It could start employing people who do not see the Pope as being anti-Christ and have a modicum of sympathy for, or understanding of, his theology and vision.<br /><br />But for me it is the spite that is the issue.Fr Ray Blakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05584140126211527252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-65819949561824091862012-01-02T00:43:30.335+00:002012-01-02T00:43:30.335+00:00Et Expecto: while the Tablet's readership is i...Et Expecto: while the Tablet's readership is indeed in decline, the finances of the Tablet - and, indeed, the Tablet Trust - are far from delicate. The wretched organ is sitting, Smaug-like, on top of heaps of money, donated, doubtless, in earlier times by faithful Catholics.<br /><br />Fr.: Is <i>La Pepinster</i>'s rule worse than those of her predecessors? I know of the organ only by sight, really - the one edition I tried to read I quickly threw across the room in disgust.<br /><br />Her magazine has a rather difficult job. People who want absolute loyalty (sometimes to a Pravda-esque degree) already have a paper they can read. Isn't a magazine meant to drill down and be a bit hostile and questioning? I don't say the current editorial board are right but if you are going to ask for it to be torn down... what shape should it take in future?rossini404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-7927792209076698882012-01-01T22:57:55.873+00:002012-01-01T22:57:55.873+00:00Dear Father Ray,a Happy & Blessed New Year to ...Dear Father Ray,a Happy & Blessed New Year to you.<br />Thankyou for setting up this Blog,some of us have never had a chance to express our opinions before but you have given us a chance to join in the life of the Parish and get some things off our chests.<br /><br />Long may this continue.<br /><br />To change the subject a little,some of us have discussed further the "Green Letter" and have come to the conclusion that it has been concocted by an outsider who is trying unsuccessfully to sew seeds of discontent amongst us.<br /><br />This ploy will not work as we all still LOVE YOUnickbrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18412418782531527758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-91671810481639365902012-01-01T19:30:48.281+00:002012-01-01T19:30:48.281+00:00The Tablet finances, which can be examined by goin...The Tablet finances, which can be examined by going to the Charity Commission site, are a little bit delicate.<br /><br />If a few more parishes declined to stock it and some more individuals stopped taking it, the publication would be forced into liquidation. Then someone else could take it over and adopt a different editorial stance.Et Expectohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04273064434098923960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-70290169976091509352012-01-01T17:02:08.081+00:002012-01-01T17:02:08.081+00:00Hats are handy if you haven't got time to sort...Hats are handy if you haven't got time to sort your hair out. You feel hidden and safe in a hat.<br />Add a large pair of sunglasses and your'e incognito!<br />Great for panic attacks, if you happen to suffer from social phobia and have run out of milk!shadowlandshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00707611566091137431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-63564594814340695192012-01-01T14:06:12.697+00:002012-01-01T14:06:12.697+00:00EP & JF,
I made a mistake about JH leaving the...EP & JF,<br />I made a mistake about JH leaving the Church after priestly ordination.<br />He is a man I very much admire. He negotiated the setting up of an Ordinariate with Rome, in the full knowledge that he would not be a priest in that for which he was preparing the way, a bit like Moses, an truly admirable man!<br />And yes, he deserves our sympathy for what seems to have led to his apostasy.Fr Ray Blakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05584140126211527252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-48835688424987839822012-01-01T12:44:26.172+00:002012-01-01T12:44:26.172+00:00I do not know if you have been following the Hepwo...I do not know if you have been following the Hepworth case. He is already a Catholic priest. He left becoming an Anglican after he was sexually abused as a seminarian and later a priest. This has been acknowleged by the Archdiocese of Melbourne.<br />However the Archdiocese of Adelaide had not assisted him. The truth is the diocese is dominated by some homosexual priests one of whom is convicted by still working in the Theology College.<br />It seems to many the investigation process was flawed as Archbishop Hepworth did not take part, the person investigating was local and the denial by the Monsignor accused simply accepted.<br />Yes Archbishop Hepworth was brave. His case is so tragic.John Fisherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04705606458418222924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-7259839992705902262012-01-01T12:12:11.726+00:002012-01-01T12:12:11.726+00:00A wise Pastor took me to the side when I was a Dea...A wise Pastor took me to the side when I was a Deacon and asked what publications I read. I did not mention the Tablet as even then, 20 years ago, it was a rather anti-Roman publication. He told me that it was imp[ortant to read the tablet,"because if you don't know what the opposition is saying you cannot address the errors they promote". I do not recommend the Tablet for reading by the laity who in general have neen taught to think in terms of and to hold to a hermenutic of rupture, which they will find affirmed and fed in the pages of that very 'Bitter Pill'.English Pastornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-59475917288881472482012-01-01T10:08:25.441+00:002012-01-01T10:08:25.441+00:00I have posted the following comment on the Tablet ...I have posted the following comment on the Tablet blog. Let's see if they let it through:<br /><br />"No, the Church does not have more important things to be worrying about. The Ordinariate was set up (as will be its counterparts across the Atlantic and in the Antipodes) in response to pastoral need and as an aid to mission and the renewal of the Church. There is nothing more important than that.<br /><br />All the Ordinariate's clergy have been vetted and cleared by Rome, with a nulla osta to show that they are fit and proper persons to be ordained. If you have evidence that the Church's authorities have been hoodwinked by those in "irregular relationships" (nudge, nudge, wink wink) you should name names and run the risk of a suit for libel. If you do not, you should shut up and refrain from this sort of innuendo.<br /><br />if you think the Ordinariate is doing badly after only a year, perhaps you should make some comparisons. It is unprecedented, and such comparisons are difficult if not impossible, but how many members did Opus Dei have after only a year? The Legion of Mary? The Labour Party?<br /><br />This is a snide and ignoble article. "AndrewWShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00196842185913965725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-67564062511407574822012-01-01T06:11:25.050+00:002012-01-01T06:11:25.050+00:00Permit me to correct you about John Hepworth. Bp ...Permit me to correct you about John Hepworth. Bp Heworth has already been ordained as a priest in the Roman Catholic Church. So the question was whether he would be allowed to minister again as a priest within the proposed ordinariate.Fr Douglasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-90188266981783266272011-12-31T22:37:49.982+00:002011-12-31T22:37:49.982+00:00Matthew M.: I'm not sure what the proper desig...Matthew M.: I'm not sure what the proper designation is for someone with an irrational hatred of hats. Misotholiast? Misopetasist? Whatever it might be, it could morph into something rather frightening. You ought to seek treatment before it sends you off the deep end. And you should definitely avoid live Mariachi music performances.John Scottnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-6289472609443771522011-12-31T21:36:20.119+00:002011-12-31T21:36:20.119+00:00Great post Fr. Ray. The Tablet and its supporter...Great post Fr. Ray. The Tablet and its supporters are so passe. <br /><br /> Lindi.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-57252306419737403892011-12-31T20:16:38.208+00:002011-12-31T20:16:38.208+00:00Oh, I don't know Father -- destruction and t...Oh, I don't know Father -- destruction and then reincarnation may not be such a bad thing!Andrew Lyonshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09507554611700794108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-76610788036551849872011-12-31T20:08:40.582+00:002011-12-31T20:08:40.582+00:00Change at the Tablet will be via the values of th...Change at the Tablet will be via the values of this world i.e. revenue and profit. Unfortunately ,The Tablet remains in line with Catholic institutions e.g. Cafod, CES and of course the vast majority of E&W bishops. Why should it change?fidelisjoffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12126244525059161896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-84857782498799803412011-12-31T19:29:04.680+00:002011-12-31T19:29:04.680+00:00'THERE somewhere' [oy, yoy, yoy. What ca...'THERE somewhere' [oy, yoy, yoy. What can I say: I'm recovering from severe anemia!]gemoftheoceanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05521207668262592414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-76697704658950067042011-12-31T18:43:00.839+00:002011-12-31T18:43:00.839+00:00@ Matthew M: well, as a female I wear hats in the ...@ Matthew M: well, as a female I wear hats in the winter that keep my ears warm, and in the summer I wear hats that give some cool shade. I tend to remove said hats in church, although I have worn "smart" hats to church weddings. So I don't think they're always about showing off. To my knowledge, men wear hats for warmth and shade too, and I might expect them to take them off in church as well. <br />I love the idea of wearing a mantilla but I confess to being too self-conscious to wear one on my own! <br />But I understand Father Ray's point: The Tablet is no place for sartorial bitchiness.<br />I haven't actually seen a copy of The Tablet in any Catholic church I've been in for a long time: I take it this is A Good Thing? Consequently, I haven't seen the derogatory comments about the Ordinariate, but 60 Ordinariate clergy after a year sounds like pretty good going to me too.Gigihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13592406521067190359noreply@blogger.com