tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post7372551628795830654..comments2023-12-16T16:17:43.886+00:00Comments on Fr Ray Blake's Blog: Excommunication!Fr Ray Blakehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05584140126211527252noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-66681331759487019072010-01-12T14:35:00.575+00:002010-01-12T14:35:00.575+00:00The Salamanca excommunication is here:
http://www....The Salamanca excommunication is here:<br />http://www.studiolum.com/wang/es/2007_06_01_archive.html<br />(sorry, don't know how to do the linky thing)Richardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-70520540147811332882010-01-09T22:09:54.702+00:002010-01-09T22:09:54.702+00:00Even St Mike called upon to curse?... the Angel wh...Even St Mike called upon to curse?... the Angel who said to Satan 'May God rebuke you'???tubbshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07272003035464034763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-38457358113983049002010-01-09T14:49:25.254+00:002010-01-09T14:49:25.254+00:00Thank you, Father. Most useful!Thank you, Father. Most useful!Little Black Sambohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16699227938165106710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-71880460366498427152010-01-08T19:41:37.967+00:002010-01-08T19:41:37.967+00:00What a pity excommunication was in history often u...What a pity excommunication was in history often used for political reasons. An Irish bishop in nineteenth century Newfoundland ,Bishop John Thomas Mullock , put a whole community under a one year ban for disregarding his instructions as to how to vote.<br /><br />What a pity too it often can be regarded as a mistake. I understand from Fr Vidmar's book that the early Catholic historians such as Lingard thought it was a mistake to excommunicate Elizabeth I by the Bull "Regnans in Excelsis" which put Catholics in an impossible position.<br /><br />One wonders why according to Newman was St Athanasius subject to Papal excommunication. Why was Hitler never excommunicated? Is it because as Owen Chadwick maintains the example of Elisabeth I suggested to the Vatican that such action would be counter-productive? Why are the pro-abortion politicians who parade their Catholic allegiance in Britain and the USA not excommunicated?<br /><br />Is it an arbitrary matter or is it subject to law? Apart from not returning the books to the library in Salamanca what indeed must someone in the Catholic Church do to be excommunicated?Independenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08199774656279385253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-46628697913601625582010-01-08T14:32:53.676+00:002010-01-08T14:32:53.676+00:00Gulp.Gulp.The Boneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10271719805983763595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-62835106847210738792010-01-08T11:44:40.441+00:002010-01-08T11:44:40.441+00:00I do like things to be unequivocal.I do like things to be unequivocal.Martinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-3315665197840127632010-01-08T10:51:07.516+00:002010-01-08T10:51:07.516+00:00That excommunication is what I would call "Ov...That excommunication is what I would call "Over the top" and leaves hardly any room for repentance; It might have the opposite effect on the victims behaviour ! Do you have a copy of that wonderful excommunication in the library of (I think)Salamanca which speaks of an excommunication specially reserved to the Holy See for anyone who fails to return books borrowed from the library ? It is or was available as a printed copy. There is one at Downside.Michael Cliftonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00568515640292864739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-5317886780390271412010-01-08T08:09:45.823+00:002010-01-08T08:09:45.823+00:00Excommunicand: "Does this mean I'm fired,...Excommunicand: "Does this mean I'm fired, then?"Michael Petekhttp://www.crownofdavid.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-76333527414450952912010-01-08T02:22:32.710+00:002010-01-08T02:22:32.710+00:00"Bless and do not curse," says the Lord...."Bless and do not curse," says the Lord. Certainly I would not want to be on the receiving end of this imprecation, nor on the issuing end either. "He loved cursing. May it come upon him. He took no delight in blessing. May it be far from him."<br /><br />In all the history of the Church I wonder how often such a prayer has been publicly offered, and what were its effects- if known.Lee Gilberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16506547355314136320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-89704560752522843772010-01-08T02:11:27.645+00:002010-01-08T02:11:27.645+00:00Good heavens! That certainly doesn't sound li...Good heavens! That certainly doesn't sound like a "medicinal penalty".Jacqueline Y.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-21927158159788878762010-01-08T01:00:29.502+00:002010-01-08T01:00:29.502+00:00The liberal bishops would be appalled to read this...The liberal bishops would be appalled to read this edict or statement(they may say "this is uncharitable")and the knees of person to be ex-communicated would probably tremble when he/she hear this decree. LOLFr. Gary V.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05301155340062218670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-7967427029215352372010-01-07T23:28:22.214+00:002010-01-07T23:28:22.214+00:00Makes the Commination in the Book of Common Prayer...Makes the Commination in the <i>Book of Common Prayer</i> look very tame<br /><br />Regards<br />John U.K.John F H Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01032884551581324489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-24335317834920970522010-01-07T22:49:06.560+00:002010-01-07T22:49:06.560+00:00Indeed. That IS telling 'em.Indeed. That IS telling 'em.JARayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18138004129894177863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-7467878679289870072010-01-07T22:34:28.297+00:002010-01-07T22:34:28.297+00:00" May he be cursed in living, in dying, in ea..." May he be cursed in living, in dying, in eating, in drinking, in hungering, in thirsting, in fasting, in sleeping, in slumbering, in walking, in standing, in sitting, in lying, in working, in resting, in pissing, in shitting and in bloodletting."<br /><br />Not very ICEL.Augustinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02874922973165634505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-13456013410435571772010-01-07T21:25:12.621+00:002010-01-07T21:25:12.621+00:00Wow! That sure does sound serious!Wow! That sure does sound serious!pelerinnoreply@blogger.com