tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post7642968682404688876..comments2023-12-16T16:17:43.886+00:00Comments on Fr Ray Blake's Blog: Words, WordsFr Ray Blakehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05584140126211527252noreply@blogger.comBlogger45125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-68264947632848030832011-09-14T01:13:18.167+01:002011-09-14T01:13:18.167+01:00Fr. Ray,
You may never know who you will reach, s...Fr. Ray, <br />You may never know who you will reach, so please keep on keeping on with the catechizing!! There are so many adults out there with huge gaps in their Catholic education. But they listen to a good homilist. Tell us what we need to hear. Be courageous. And break open the gospel for us. There are so many readings that only make sense when a wonderful priest puts it in perspective for us. Please don't become discouraged. You can make a difference!Laura Haussnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-70356040961747064562011-09-13T17:53:02.151+01:002011-09-13T17:53:02.151+01:00In general with regard to preaching I tried not to...In general with regard to preaching I tried not to go on too long, to make only one or two points, and them clearly of course, and most importantly not to read the homily but to speak ex corde. If you read a sermon most of its effect is lost. Also I regret always being tied to preaching on the Sunday readings. Inthe good old days we used to have a systematic way of going through the Church's teaching as a basis for sermons.Michael Cliftonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00568515640292864739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-25295104711157746212011-09-13T12:54:16.461+01:002011-09-13T12:54:16.461+01:00If I may clear up a misunderstanding. There is no ...If I may clear up a misunderstanding. There is no vow of silence. Some of us prefer Latin. Some of us prefer the vernacular. Each is equally valid and I don't think anything untoward can be read into either preference, as long as the Mass is celebrated with due reverence.<br />It is liturgical abuse which gets people going, not those who prefer Mass celebrated in English. <br />In my experience, the abuses are more likely to happen in a vernacular Mass with the priest facing the people. I think most of us have witnessed Father who can't resist improving the liturgy and making a show of himself. It doesn't render the Mass invalid. It just makes him look like a prat.<br />In my experience, the opportunities do not present themselves if the priest is facing the altar because his audience is God.<br />So the answer is: Yes, Vatican II is valid. But not what is loosely called "the spirit of Vatican II" - a euphemism for all sorts of strange doings not in the rubrics. <br />Of course, I can only speak for myself. I enjoy robust debate, but I recognise that, for some, it can seem hurtful and personal. I don't think that's anyone's intention. We're all on the same side, aren't we?Gentyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05569143943867323153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-21080784395134561042011-09-12T19:07:41.345+01:002011-09-12T19:07:41.345+01:00“…sooner or later become apparent that they did no...“…sooner or later become apparent that they did not include me as part of the 'body' of Christ…”<br /><br />“…I would like it if others would also state clearly their beliefs regarding this, but it seems as if there is a vow of silence…”<br /><br />“… One of your blogs is called "Bishop Williamson Speaks" and if one of my children were to look at how you profess the Catholic faith, such as saying there is only one Novus Ordo priest you trust, …”<br /><br />People do not reveal their beliefs to individuals for the same reason your statement has misinterpreted what I have said.<br /><br />I did not state I do not trust Novus Ordo Priests.<br /><br />Your neurotic penchants for believing as you wish, rather than understanding that which is presented before you is perhaps the reason some of your friends maintain ‘Radio silence’ around you.<br /><br />You are not the Lone Ranger when it comes to something like this.<br /><br />When I first met an SSPX Padre, some of the SSPXers became quite angry that the Padres actually spoke to me.<br /><br /> These Whitened Sepulchers went as far as to hire an Israeli Private Investigation company to perform a criminal background check on me. <br /><br />They spent much money, time an effort to smash me and my children.<br /><br />I do not to this day, appreciate the harm they brought to the Padres, my children and grandchildren, and the children and grandchildren of others similarly situated.<br /><br /> As for the Padres and me:<br /><br />They were Sheppards, I was a sheep.<br /> <br />Speaking to me privately, one told me “They are clamoring because they think I like you. Actually, I don’t. I do appreciate the help you give us, and can’t see anything you have done wrong.”<br /><br />After twelve years, I still try to help the Padres every chance I get.<br />Just like I would any other CatholiC Padre.<br /><br />I am not a registered member of the SSPX.<br /><br />My Bishop Williamson blog came about because of a few things that happened where I had to provide his writings on a world wide level.<br /><br />My blog and website get ‘hits’ world wide according to the stats.<br /><br />The same is true for Et Verbum Caro Factum Est, dedicated to our Mother.<br /><br />I maintain this site for the edification of souls; the Padres there have no affiliation with me, whatsoever in regard to this web site.<br /><br />they did not include me as part of the 'body' of Christ…” <br /><br />You probably are just not a member of their clique.<br /><br />Big deal.<br /><br />Any group that would have you as a member you really don’t want to be a member of anyway.<br /><br />That’s how I feel about groups that ask me to join them.<br /><br />Some SSPX members have a penchant for knowing every detail about someone that does not measure up to their virtue. They always go after people that fail their test, and will spend every ounce of their strength and many dollars getting their victims punished by SSPX hierarchy.<br /><br />Very few people ever pass their test. I have come to name this group the Whitened Sepulchers.<br /><br />So I would stay away from demanding to know, or having someone declare their allegiance, especially while they are standing before the Blessed Sacrament, or they maintain free of donations web sites and blogs.<br /><br />Since you have visited one of my blogs, for which I thank you, please stop by the Our Lady of Guadalupe blog.<br /><br />It is intended as a teaching blog.<br /><br />The picture is from the Carmel built over the very spot on Tepeyac Hill where the Holy Mother called out to Saint Juan Diego.<br /><br />I understand the picture is several hundred years old.<br /><br />As for your search for membership, once Baptized you became a member of the Kingdom of Heaven.<br />Once Confirmed, you became a Lieutenant in the Church Militant.<br /><br />As for your doubts about this, here is how I will leave it;<br /><br />I entrust this whole matter in the hands of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, “Mother of the Priest par excellence, Our Lord Jesus Christ, and through Him, of all priests in whom she forms her Son”.<br /><br />*Pablo the Mexicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09384415590309803327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-23607394916990010172011-09-12T18:13:26.635+01:002011-09-12T18:13:26.635+01:00What exactly has Vatican II got to do with the pri...What exactly has Vatican II got to do with the price of fish?nickbrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18412418782531527758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-46755389309162018492011-09-12T14:59:18.922+01:002011-09-12T14:59:18.922+01:00Since your prayers for your flock can never be per...Since your prayers for your flock can never be perfect have you tried more penance?Ma Tuckernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-33310144896521273922011-09-12T09:54:44.428+01:002011-09-12T09:54:44.428+01:00Well St Michael
I find your commentary confusing,...Well St Michael<br /><br />I find your commentary confusing, in fact you speak in riddles most of the time. One of your blogs is called "Bishop Williamson Speaks" and if one of my children were to look at how you profess the Catholic faith, such as saying there is only one Novus Ordo priest you trust, I would steer him away from you.<br />I respect your right to believe as you see fit, but I just want to be clear about what that is.<br /><br />I used to mix with a lot of 'fellow' christians who would appear to be including me in their fellowships, then it would sooner or later become apparent that they did not include me as part of the 'body' of Christ.<br /><br />I see this beginning to happen in blogging circles, once again, people can exclude all they like, but if a blog or it's author is claiming or commenting as a Catholic, I want to know just what that term means to them, also what it does not.<br /><br />Do you acknowledge Vatican 11 as valid, for example?<br />I would like it if others would also state clearly their beliefs regarding this, but it seems as if there is a vow of silence.<br /><br />Why?mehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06962374096401238994noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-42864755505285288622011-09-12T02:32:30.365+01:002011-09-12T02:32:30.365+01:00"...Do you believe Pope Benedict is the true ..."...Do you believe Pope Benedict is the true Vicar of Christ, on earth, today?..."<br /><br />Protestants use variations of questions like this; I always laugh at their tactics.<br /><br />When used by someone other than a protestant, it becomes a sad commentary.<br /><br />*Pablo the Mexicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09384415590309803327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-65037353608197896152011-09-11T22:57:25.384+01:002011-09-11T22:57:25.384+01:00Father, thank you for the wise comments and for al...Father, thank you for the wise comments and for all your continued efforts - if you keep on at us, something will stick!<br /><br />The point you make is sad but true. I have seen friends and family sit through Mass after Mass, week after week. It is in their language, they can hear everything perfectly, but they understand nothing.<br /><br />Where is the problem? Part of it is cultural - there isn't a background of catachesis where what is taught at school and at home backs up what is taught in church. And what is taught in church rarely explains anything. Few priests are charismatic or great orators and most will play it safe in their sermons, with a 'thought for the day' commentary on the day's readings. The liturgy meanwhile is frankly, dull and uninspiring. The same old hymns, the same self important people in the choir and being prominent as lay ministers and readers and all that. Unless you are in on the gang, you feel uncomfortable anyway.<br /><br />The paradox I think is that the Latin Mass made it easier for the mediocre Catholic (which is most of us most of the time) to find something to take home. So despite being in a foreign language and complicated, it was actually easier in many ways. The 'good' Catholics have stayed - they would go to Mass in whatever language; it is the less than good who have drifted off.MartinThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08477783154673312798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-30161351539353396132011-09-11T21:47:16.571+01:002011-09-11T21:47:16.571+01:00Gadfly's list cheered me up. I would also add ...Gadfly's list cheered me up. I would also add the observation that Benediction is becoming much more frequent and widespread, since Hyde Park. I'm not just talking about "the usual suspects" like yourself, Father, and other priests that value Tradition in a very visible way. I am talking about very ordinary provincial parishes, where relatives worship, and which I attend in the holidays.Dillyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01205740584849200357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-14005851980248058132011-09-11T19:10:41.085+01:002011-09-11T19:10:41.085+01:00St Michael
Do you believe Pope Benedict is the tr...St Michael<br /><br />Do you believe Pope Benedict is the true Vicar of Christ, on earth, today?mehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06962374096401238994noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-66209154042221444132011-09-11T18:39:16.640+01:002011-09-11T18:39:16.640+01:00SSPX Priests are the only ones I know of, with the...<i>SSPX Priests are the only ones I know of, with the exception of one Novus Ordo Priest I met in Mexico City, that are not under the influence of the Freemason Lodge. Directly or indirectly.</i><br /><br />Either you don't know of many priests, or you're... how to put this charitably?... a candidate for inclusion in <a href="http://www.kpnuts.com/" rel="nofollow">KP snackfood</a>.vnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-52968013983727868572011-09-11T16:45:52.910+01:002011-09-11T16:45:52.910+01:00"...mentions and quotes sspx priests sometime..."...mentions and quotes sspx priests sometimes on blogs (Abbey Roads), is St Michael sspx?..."<br /><br />No. <br /><br />I quote SSPX Priests, and the Holy Fathers, and the Saints, because that is where I find the dogmas and doctrines properly spoken as I learned them pre council.<br /><br />SSPX Priests are the only ones I know of, with the exception of one Novus Ordo Priest I met in Mexico City, that are not under the influence of the Freemason Lodge. Directly or indirectly.<br /><br />I am a Roman Catholic with ties to Tepeyac Hill, a Cristero, and I attend the Tridentine Mass.<br /><br />I do get to see some of the treachery caused by the Masons in their pursuit of Lucifer's plan.<br /><br />I am glad to see that twenty percent of the good Padres Masses are Tridentine; Satan was hoping to smash them completely.<br /><br />The Holy Mother is perhaps taking him one step at a time that his foundation in Tradition be a solid one.<br /><br />From afar, I have seen his transformation.<br /><br />That he is ridiculed for devotion to Nuestra Senora, the Virgin Mary, is a sign from Heaven he is favored by her.<br /><br />Padre has only eighty percent of his people to bring back to the Faith.<br /><br />We will continue to pray for him.<br /><br />*Pablo the Mexicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09384415590309803327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-72762099482591715062011-09-11T16:09:04.801+01:002011-09-11T16:09:04.801+01:00Fr Ray ,
As has been stated by your previous comme...Fr Ray ,<br />As has been stated by your previous commentators; there is no doubt that Liturgical Rites etc. within the Church are getting better under this present Pontiff;slowly slowly catch the monkey so to speak! keep going and leave the rest to The Lord. God bless.YE OLDE JARRA SCRIBEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10368297651311397134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-28604410180012511172011-09-11T15:18:10.283+01:002011-09-11T15:18:10.283+01:00St. Mary Magdalen is not my parish but I happen to...St. Mary Magdalen is not my parish but I happen to know that Father is available to hear Confession after every weekday morning NO vernacular Mass, including Saturdays.<br />Plus, parishioners recite a decade of the Rosary after every weekday Mass.<br />To believe that Father only says Mass in Latin is mistaken. But the WAY he reverences the Holy Sacrifice cannot help but draw his congregation in to Christ.Gentyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05569143943867323153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-66539310009558151422011-09-11T13:03:01.272+01:002011-09-11T13:03:01.272+01:00@ shadowlands
As well as Physiocrat's respons...@ shadowlands<br /><br />As well as Physiocrat's response to you - what more evidence do you want that it's not about Latin!! It just so happens that priests who either say Mass in Latin sometimes, always, <b>or are open to wanting to learn to say Mass in Latin</b> all seem to have one thing in common: they are not trying to appease modern day sensibilities by protestantising The Mass, e.g. avoiding the fact that WE are the sinners.<br /><br />I have no doubt processions have taken place in small pockets around some parts of the country and in some places in Ireland, but my own experience in Ireland of the 70s and England of the last 30 years was that we should be more "sophistocated"! <br /><br />Genty describes it perfectly the way things are in my experience also (unless I seek out truly practising Catholic priests who are not antagonistic towards the EF). I say truly practising, because if they are not daring to tell us we are sinners and Confession and the Real Presence in Holy Communion is how we clean up our act, they are not performing their duty as a priest. <br /><br />The amazing thing about a priest emphasising our sinnerlyness is that it frees us up of all the false boulstering of our own egos which the secular world requires of us at work and in relationships. Suddenly, once we get over the initial shock, we can feel at ease. <br /><br />What a lot of therapies and depression pills could be thrown away if all priests had the courage of priests like Fr Ray Blake! It's because of people like him that I, among countless others, am managing to see the light. <br /><br />As Genty said:<br /><br />"It would be a brave priest at my parish who tried to spell out in his homily the wages of sin, ie H***. Children would cry, women would faint and the parish committee would be hammering on the bishop's door. The message on loop is that God loves us no matter what, but that all-important word "repentence" is rarely mentioned.<br />And if repentence is left out of the element necessary to behold the Beatific Vision, why should anyone exert themselves on the core beliefs of the Catholic faith?"<br /><br />We need all the brave priests we can get!epsilonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17785182500278281351noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-83090531274641462772011-09-11T11:21:58.211+01:002011-09-11T11:21:58.211+01:00Read and meditate upon The Soul of the
Apostolate...Read and meditate upon The Soul of the <br />Apostolate by Jean-Baptiste Chautard.Dominicnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-20549743437895276152011-09-11T11:11:44.490+01:002011-09-11T11:11:44.490+01:00Dear Father Ray
I can imagine Jesus himself feeli...Dear Father Ray<br /><br />I can imagine Jesus himself feeling the same discouragement when he experienced his closest followers:<br /><br />arguing over which of them was the greatest;<br />sending children away to prop up their own importance;<br />demanding the most important places in heaven;<br />reminding him of what they had given up to follow him and wanting to know what they would receive in return.<br /><br />Weren't they listening? Clearly even Clare's suggestion of personal holiness does not mean every word will have the impact you desire. If it was true for Christ it will certainly be true for you.<br /><br />However be assured and encouraged that what you say in Mass, the reverence you show during the liturgy and the way you minister to the parish are making a difference. Whilst we can easily see things as we would wish them to be and how far reality falls short of this, none of us can know what things would be like if we were not doing what we do. <br /><br />So don't be discouraged and don't hark back to some mythical golden age (for all such golden times are mythical) but move on from you and your parish and the Holy Church are at the moment.<br /><br />God bless<br /><br />PTPPart-time Pilgrimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11183889477468203531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-44464522901152077722011-09-11T09:43:41.399+01:002011-09-11T09:43:41.399+01:00Jean Sullivan french priest novelist, from his jou...Jean Sullivan french priest novelist, from his journal:<br /><br />"Between the illusion of the good old days and the illusion of progress and being up to date there is little difference. In order to live profoundly, in time outside of time, to be of every age, it would be neccessary to leave so many things behind! All this makes for terrible bitterness between archconservatives and progressives, in a struggle that keeps their minds occupied and occasionally distracts the general public, while avoiding the real questions.<br />But here and there new communities emerge, small groups on the move, born out of a genuine experience, living out a vital new relationship. After a while, myths are created, a certain ambiance. Then TV is invited in, and people have the opportunity to uncover scandals among those who live openly in a world of spectators and hypocrites.........I want to repeat that there is no crisis. A few will be enlightened--those who already understand. Those for whom there is no distinction between faith and love, not only because they know that this distinction has no foundation in the New Testament but because they spontaneously consider the New Testament as a poem, a way of existing, in the present, for whom faith is not a catologue but the unseen sap that gives life to the tree. For whom the agony of the present situation is never anything but our fear of truth. Those who know, that when God is confused with ideas, he only represents nostalgia, and that we must cure ourselves of the desire of being everything and lording it over others. Some appease this desire with money, ambition and vanity: others, sometimes simultaeneously, with God and religion. This god has to be put to daeth, for the love of God. In creating men and women, God has consented, to his own unending death in human consciousness. There's no end to death, from one person to the next, from one generation to the next. Humanity is like the animal that does not halt on the road to God. Death, is the imagination of God, erasing, only in order to recreate. In this way, the quest of the infinite goes on forever."mehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06962374096401238994noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-79227520054151324482011-09-11T09:09:13.306+01:002011-09-11T09:09:13.306+01:00You can tell what Fr Blake's views are by seei...You can tell what Fr Blake's views are by seeing what he does. It is all in the parish newsletter.<br /><br />He says Mass every day at 10am, and on Sundays there is a vigil Mass, a High Mass at 10.30 and an evening Mass. The weekday moring Masses are all Novus Ordo in English, the Sunday Mass is Novus Ordo with some sung Latin parts but is mostly in English.<br /><br />In addition, we have an Extraordinary Form Low Masses on Fridays at 7pm, and a Missa Cantata one Sunday afternoon each month.<br /><br />We also have about half a dozen celebrations in the Extraordinary Form each year for special occasions.<br /><br />Which makes nearly 80% of his Masses Novus Ordo.Physiocrathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13682019625346594568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-50567609433521982042011-09-11T08:53:50.958+01:002011-09-11T08:53:50.958+01:00I do think that priests today are hampered by the ...I do think that priests today are hampered by the expectation they should emulate "gentle Jesus, meek and mild". <br />It would be a brave priest at my parish who tried to spell out in his homily the wages of sin, ie H***. Children would cry, women would faint and the parish committee would be hammering on the bishop's door. The message on loop is that God loves us no matter what, but that all-important word "repentence" is rarely mentioned.<br />And if repentence is left out of the element necessary to behold the Beatific Vision, why should anyone exert themselves on the core beliefs of the Catholic faith?<br />I do sometimes wish for an Amos Starkadder to blow away all that niceness.Gentyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05569143943867323153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-70401460806568295562011-09-11T08:11:05.097+01:002011-09-11T08:11:05.097+01:00St M, come to our defence said:
"The Trident...St M, come to our defence said:<br /><br />"The Tridentine Mass creates Catholics."<br /><br />and<br /><br />"His soul was fed.<br /><br />He is not a Modernist, Liberal Catholic."<br /><br />Can I just ask Father to clarify, (so that I don't keep coming to blogs where this is the only fundamental belief and cause unneccessary angst amongst people of a different religion to me, which is frankly, wearing me down mentally and affecting my Catholic faith).<br /><br />Does Father Ray believe in the validity of the Novus Ordo Mass and Vatican 11? If not, I will not try to fight this, I will just seek out those who accept both forms.<br /><br />Some of the commenters seem to speak as if it is accepted that only the old form is able to convert men's hearts. Therefore, my claim to be a Catholic would be invalid to them. Bit is it also invalid to some priests and maybe they should name themselves. Souls are after all, precious and at stake with all this confusion.<br /><br />Epsilon speaks of a beautiful procession she was apart of, not seen since the fifties. Well I have memories of such processions from the seventies in my head? Also, my father has carried a large wooden cross throughout the town where he lives every Good friday with many others in a procession of witness to unbelievers(until this year and last) for over three decades. Is his and their witness of no fruit bearing capability? Is it literally, only, the old form that has any power to convert? Is that what some believe here? If so, please say so. Is that what Rome teaches? Do we all follow Rome's teachings here?<br /><br /> The souls some of you refer to as liberals and seem to discount as beyond saving are the same souls God gave a prayer to an angel at Fatima for. The angel gave it to the children. It ended, "Lead ALL souls to heaven, ESPECIALLY those who have most need of your mercy"<br /><br />Speak clearly, not in whispers, all you Catholics. Harm is being done to the body. The commenter, St Michael come to our defence, mentions and quotes sspx priests sometimes on blogs (Abbey Roads), is St Michael sspx? Is anyone else here sspx? Speak up!<br /><br />What is your name(s)?<br /><br /><br />Blimey! That sounded like an exorcism at the end, sorry Father!mehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06962374096401238994noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-45389941831933522982011-09-11T08:04:02.986+01:002011-09-11T08:04:02.986+01:00I think I remember reading somewhere that in Sovie...I think I remember reading somewhere that in Soviet Russia the orthodox faith was kept up despite the virulent atheism of the state system. It was against the law to teach catechism to children. [But not against the law to attend services, necessarily, though to be sure one would be harassed, and the state actively promoted the best TV, soccer games, etc. during Easter time, Christmas, etc.] When some old party hack questioned why there was still a continuing 'new stream' of old ladies and men in the churches, [those who'd been subject to the atheist propaganda in the schools] one old person said: 'Ah, but they forgot the liturgy itself teaches.'gemoftheoceanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05521207668262592414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-79594016172496806202011-09-11T07:58:29.459+01:002011-09-11T07:58:29.459+01:00A young religious priest once told me of some advi...A young religious priest once told me of some advice he received from a wise old bird in his order when he had sought him out in a monment of discouragement: 'you often don't see the fruits of your works'. So don't give up!PMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06144651697262763099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-85068272128976954942011-09-11T04:55:58.667+01:002011-09-11T04:55:58.667+01:00Like many others I agree that in the 50s we were t...Like many others I agree that in the 50s we were taught about the Faith at school BY NUNS. We also were surrounded by devout practising Catholics who showed us how to LIVE it. People made sacrifices for their faith then. They had large families, they fasted and they prayed together. We were a praying worshipping community (though no one knew the word community then}. It's all gone. The church decided to become 'relevant' and lost its way. Alas,jeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07381500832114145578noreply@blogger.com