tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post8215245990947048995..comments2023-12-16T16:17:43.886+00:00Comments on Fr Ray Blake's Blog: Is it Prayer? #2: ServersFr Ray Blakehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05584140126211527252noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-40718827555469083452011-06-11T10:27:44.683+01:002011-06-11T10:27:44.683+01:00I think it's a shame not to have boys serving ...I think it's a shame not to have boys serving Mass alongside experienced servers. That's how they learn.<br /><br />In the olden days a boy who had made his First Holy Communion, learned how to serve and would progress from novice to candle holder to boat boy to thurifer and, eventually, to MC.<br /><br />There's no better formation in the Mass imo. At Westminster Cathedral the boy choristers have a turn at serving. <br /><br />With enough adults around, fears of the kinds of scandals which have beset the Church are obviated.georgemnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-67843455384584352332011-06-08T16:54:48.267+01:002011-06-08T16:54:48.267+01:00"The disciple is not above his master: but ev..."The disciple is not above his master: but every one shall be perfect, if he be as his master."<br /><br />The best example of why children should be under the authority of a Catholic father and a Holy Padre that I know of.<br /><br />*Pablo the Mexicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09384415590309803327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-92117334013293154072011-06-08T16:39:08.159+01:002011-06-08T16:39:08.159+01:00We old guys need to get out of the way and get you...We old guys need to get out of the way and get young boys into the Sanctuary.<br /><br />Priests are formed in the Sanctuary, while as young boys they learn from serving at Mass.<br /><br />It is a great disservice to our Lord and a matter of Pride when a man claims to be smarter than the rest because some fool college gave him a paper after he memorized some stuff.<br /><br />All the theology we need, and all the catechism we actually need can come from attending Mass.<br /><br />Who says you can't step out of your parish boundaries and speak with parents that are dying to have their children become Priests?<br /><br />I have two grandchildren I will send you; remember when parents used to send their children to become Priests at an early age?<br /><br />The Devil has set the trap against children that they not become Priests.<br /><br />Bow up on Satan's plan, Padre, and get a few kids and dedicate them to our Mother.<br /><br />Many children since Vatican Council II could have become Priests that would lead the Church through this storm; Satan killed them through Catholic families having abortions or using birth control.<br /><br />Women in the Sacristy and old codgers being important in the Sacristy have killed vocations also.<br /><br />The Novus Ordo forms Protestants.<br /><br />The Tridentine Mass forms Catholics.<br /><br />Mixing the two creates Roman Protestants.<br /><br />What do you want to present before the Lord?<br /><br />And remember, the Novus Ordo might be fun with dancing, clowns, mariachi bands, and live entertainment, but the Tridentine Mass is the one for when I die.<br /><br />*Pablo the Mexicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09384415590309803327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-72525390911091464922011-06-08T15:48:21.338+01:002011-06-08T15:48:21.338+01:00Well, at least it gives Tridentinists something el...Well, at least it gives Tridentinists something else to be up in arms about. Since their stance seems to be one of constant combativeness, one wonders if there is any place for God in Catholic traditionalism. I thought the fruits of the Holy Spirit (for those who truly know him) are supposed to be love, joy, peace ...<br />Perhaps Bishop Conti had in mind the recent instruction on the EF mass, which said that those who request it should not be opposed to the legitimacy of the OF. That may the case in an abstract legalist sense, but if you go on about how superior the EF is, more prayerful, more theologically correct etc., you are really questioning the OF in a divisive way and bishops are the ones who have to promote the unity of the Church.Savonarolanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-73027364244432579062011-06-08T12:07:20.272+01:002011-06-08T12:07:20.272+01:00@ Parepidemos
Archbishop Mario Conti’s Ad Clerum l...@ Parepidemos<br />Archbishop Mario Conti’s Ad Clerum letter to the priests and religious of the Archdiocese of Glasgow quoted in the national press.Colinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-22243002256281158042011-06-08T12:04:14.103+01:002011-06-08T12:04:14.103+01:00parepidemos:
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/da...parepidemos:<br /><br />http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/damianthompson/100091019/archbishop-conti-tells-clergy-do-not-promote-the-extraordinary-form-of-the-mass-there-is-no-call-for-it/George Carmodyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15988026122498233526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-24489558347920640402011-06-08T07:49:49.745+01:002011-06-08T07:49:49.745+01:00The other important quality to foster in servers i...The other important quality to foster in servers is 'sanctuary sense', which contributes significantly to the whole 'ars celebrandi'. Where boys are concerned there has to be a system of progressive responsibility, so that a boat boy serves in that position for a minimum period before he can advance to higher duties and so on.motupropriohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06261356560114077508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-87551224820329346392011-06-08T01:23:12.955+01:002011-06-08T01:23:12.955+01:00Not all servers in the East are ordained. Most, in...Not all servers in the East are ordained. Most, in fact, are not, but some, especially the Greeks, permit boys to be vested as subdeacons and to function as such even without benefit of ordination.Dr. Adam DeVillehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06505315831493271933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-73399417604022443142011-06-07T18:28:29.370+01:002011-06-07T18:28:29.370+01:00Colin, May I ask you to provide your source for th...Colin, May I ask you to provide your source for the comment regarding the Archbishop of Glasgow? Many thanks.parepidemoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06416012601568784997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-10187572675268146412011-06-07T17:03:07.277+01:002011-06-07T17:03:07.277+01:00"Archbishop Conti tells clergy: do not promot..."Archbishop Conti tells clergy: do not promote the Extraordinary Form of the Mass – there is 'no call for it'"<br /> <br />Discuss.Colinnoreply@blogger.com