tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post8306047804885719749..comments2023-12-16T16:17:43.886+00:00Comments on Fr Ray Blake's Blog: Christmas SpiritFr Ray Blakehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05584140126211527252noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-27923307570108910652012-12-29T22:20:21.477+00:002012-12-29T22:20:21.477+00:00Pablo -- DO you REALLY want to go there with the s...Pablo -- DO you REALLY want to go there with the scientific knowledge of Thomas Aquinas? He also thought that a soul wasn't present in a fetus until "quickening." i.e. the baby could be felt to be moving in the womb. Thomas Aquinas knew as much of fetal development and women's anatomy as the average retarded 7 year old knows today. No offense to retarded 7 year olds -- but they couldn't possibly know then what we know now. [PS - the earth revolves around our sun too.]<br /><br />There's "tradition" with a small "t" and this is one of them about Him magically passing through her stomach or whatever. If that was going to happen the Holy Spirit may as well have zapped the Infant down to earth instead of making Mary go through 9 months of labor. HE WAS LIKE US IN ALL THINGS but sin and the way He was conceived. I rather suspect if Jesus was born in any way other than through the normal birth canal it would have been mentioned. If her becoming pregnant via the Holy Spirit was mentioned - one would think this amazing phenomenon would also have been mentioned. The thought that lack of hymen automatically makes someone a non-version is peasant thinking - or sheer ignorance. Thomas had an excuse. I bet Jesus had to go to the bathroom too and had night emissions like all men.gemoftheoceanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05521207668262592414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-29053153277867451982012-12-29T19:10:59.455+00:002012-12-29T19:10:59.455+00:00Pablo,
The doctrine is that she did not suffer fro...Pablo,<br />The doctrine is that she did not suffer from the pain of childbirth.<br />The dogma is that she did not share in the curse laid on Eve at the Fall, how it happened is not defined.<br /><br />Gem,<br />The tradition is that she remained "a virgin", in every sense, not merely "spiritually, some of the Fathers said he passed through the Virgin's womb, as he passed into the upper room. How, has not been defined, there is only opinion.Fr Ray Blakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05584140126211527252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-49198139323856877052012-12-29T18:44:47.275+00:002012-12-29T18:44:47.275+00:00From the Summa Theologica of Saint Thomas Aquinas:...From the Summa Theologica of Saint Thomas Aquinas:<br /><br />6. Our Lord was born of Mary without opening her virginal womb. Therefore, Mary had no suffering, no pains or distress, in giving birth to her divine Son.<br /><br />re:<br /><br />http://www.catholictheology.info/summa-theologica/summa-part3.php?q=301<br /><br />For the edification of souls.<br /><br /><br />*<br /><br />Pablo the Mexicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09384415590309803327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-79448181300826688452012-12-29T17:59:23.081+00:002012-12-29T17:59:23.081+00:00"....Spare me from rampant ignorance that pas..."....Spare me from rampant ignorance that passes for wisdom amongst the SSPX types..."<br /><br />Once again:<br /><br />I am not a member of the SSPX.<br /><br />My blogs and websites have much SSPX material as I cannot find Catholic catechisms and sermons in the Novus Ordo.<br /><br />I do not like clown Masses, or Freemason Masses, or gay Masses, and so on.<br /><br />If I comment on things Catholic, it comes from my pre Vatican II catechism.<br /><br />We were taught Christ did not cause pain to the Holy Mother, as she was without Original Sin, and He appeared without the normal childbirth most women go through.<br /><br />I am fortunate to have heard these sermons and catechisms from Priests that knew how to keep women in their place.<br /><br />There is much rage in the Modern Woman.<br /><br />Her soul knows she has surrendered to Satan, but she just cannot help herself.<br /><br />Pray for the Holy Father.<br /><br /><br />*Pablo the Mexicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09384415590309803327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-3829377679682222692012-12-29T14:42:19.165+00:002012-12-29T14:42:19.165+00:00Good grief. So I guess Jesus Christ just popped o...Good grief. So I guess Jesus Christ just popped out of Mary's belly button. Jesus Christ coming through the birth canal WOULD NOT AFFECT MARY'S VIRGINITY AT ALL. <br /><br />One can only lose one's virginity by having SEX. S.E.X. Mary did not have sex. Lack of hymen (you do know, Pablo, since you seem to know everything) that some women are born without one? It does not make her a non-virgin.<br /><br />Spare me from rampant ignorance that passes for wisdom amongst the SSPX types. gemoftheoceanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05521207668262592414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-14904280748716868292012-12-27T00:05:19.304+00:002012-12-27T00:05:19.304+00:00Pablo.
"Christ did not travel through the bi...Pablo. <br />"Christ did not travel through the birth canal".<br />Thank you for that. Is is obvious to some but many don't get it, so refreshing to encounter this kind of Faith which is so rarely seen - sadly. Everything is brought down to human level which leads to the unraveling of Faith and the culprits are usually RE teachers who do not even accept Mary's virginitymomangelicahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08982875216331629413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-42450436008733666742012-12-26T17:03:47.218+00:002012-12-26T17:03:47.218+00:00Pablo.
What you claim is opinion not dogma.
The ...Pablo.<br /><br />What you claim is opinion not dogma.<br /><br />The midwife, Susanna in medieval Mystery Plays is a very important character, for indeed she testifies to the Holy Mother's virginity, before, during and after.<br /><br />She is part of the Apocryphal and Iconic tradition of east and west.Fr Ray Blakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05584140126211527252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-33557429284784602792012-12-26T16:41:37.958+00:002012-12-26T16:41:37.958+00:00Christ did not travel through the birth canal.
Th...Christ did not travel through the birth canal.<br /><br />The Holy Mother was conceived without sin, therefore, no mid-wife.<br /><br />To claim Christ needed help in being born, is like saying someone came by and helped Him roll away the stone at His resurrection.<br /><br />We need Catholic catechism to have Catholic thought, Traditional Catholic catechism, which is far different than Modernist catechism.<br /><br />*<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Pablo the Mexicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09384415590309803327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-55314379137291373402012-12-26T14:06:23.620+00:002012-12-26T14:06:23.620+00:00Thanks Father - a merry and holy Feast to you.Thanks Father - a merry and holy Feast to you.Richard Collinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10826907710570316952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-21689207004842598422012-12-25T20:15:10.168+00:002012-12-25T20:15:10.168+00:00Food for thought. I ponder, as I look at the Crib,...Food for thought. I ponder, as I look at the Crib, whether I would have opened the door to the Holy Family when they sought shelter.<br />It leads me to wonder whether my heart and soul are open fully to Christ or whether the door is only just ajar.<br />That's what your posts do, Father. They make me stop and think.<br />I wish you a happy, holy and joyous Christmas. Gentyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05569143943867323153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-18662502048481243912012-12-25T19:30:48.576+00:002012-12-25T19:30:48.576+00:00Parboil the potatoes for a few minutes (or zap the...Parboil the potatoes for a few minutes (or zap them in the microwave for 4) and then put them in with the turkey about 35 minutes before the turkey is done, and for heaven's sake get some foil for the top of that turkey for the last half hour. Send the kids over to the neighbor's to bother, as they've probably been annoying all year. They deserve each other. [The kids and the neighbors.] As regards the vegetarian member, throw a tofu burger at her, it's all she deserves - ma ain't running a restaurant. Grandma needs to be glad she wasn't stuck in a home somewhere, and next year send the men out in the backyard to deep fry a turkey, because God knows, liquor, men with fire and deep fryers are such a winning combination. Maybe the vegetarian can take them down to the emergency room. Sprouts shouldn't have been served in the first place, and Aunt Molly's teeth would have probably broken on custard anyway - she never brushes them. The cat probably needed a good kick anyway, as it has undoubtedly tried to kill all the family members by darting under their feet while they are at the top of the stairs trying to descend. And next year just GIVE the dog tinsel to eat right away and he won't knock the tree over trying to get at it. If you are lucky, the vegetarian daughter in law can drop of the menfolk at the emergency room and the dog at the emergency vet on the same trip.<br /><br />Problems SOLVED!!!!<br /><br />My own private bet about the details of the Nativity have the Innkeeper's wife as the midwife. I doubt if Mary pulled the Baby out herself, Kardashian style.<br /><br />[Merry Christmas.]gemoftheoceanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05521207668262592414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-26501232749618333672012-12-25T11:02:38.543+00:002012-12-25T11:02:38.543+00:00Fr Ray,
A Blessed,happy and peaceful Christmas to ...Fr Ray,<br />A Blessed,happy and peaceful Christmas to you and to all your readers!<br /><br />God Bless,<br /><br /><br />Michael.YE OLDE JARRA SCRIBEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10368297651311397134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-43646700352270963012012-12-25T07:47:12.498+00:002012-12-25T07:47:12.498+00:00Hard hitting post.
Feliz Navidad, Padre.
*Hard hitting post.<br /><br />Feliz Navidad, Padre.<br /><br /><br />*Pablo the Mexicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09384415590309803327noreply@blogger.com