tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post9168944341047709485..comments2023-12-16T16:17:43.886+00:00Comments on Fr Ray Blake's Blog: Making bishops accountable and deposing themFr Ray Blakehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05584140126211527252noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-34824318424829054692009-01-20T00:21:00.000+00:002009-01-20T00:21:00.000+00:00Perhaps the Byzantine model has been reinforced by...Perhaps the Byzantine model has been reinforced by the dispossession of secular authority and influence through the conquest of their Sees by non-Christians? Thoughts?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-6210288484731512342009-01-19T23:31:00.000+00:002009-01-19T23:31:00.000+00:00yes, and "advisers"yes, and "advisers"Fr Ray Blakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05584140126211527252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-54081106379586615882009-01-19T23:01:00.000+00:002009-01-19T23:01:00.000+00:00'obfuscation', surely?'obfuscation', surely?Mauricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02262499349555966043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-74192899638722106242009-01-19T21:19:00.000+00:002009-01-19T21:19:00.000+00:00The rite of deposition should be pulled out of the...The rite of deposition should be pulled out of the closet and used more often...My archdiocese would be a great start.<BR/><BR/>There are times when things must be cut off and start anew. Of course we constantly pray for their conversion, but if their hearts are hardened, no conversion will happen.<BR/><BR/>I agree Father, Bishops' must be accountable for their actions. One of the many things we can learn from the East is the relationship between Bishop and priest.Joe of St. Thérèsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06506671882770822003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-84054477160373486882009-01-19T20:37:00.000+00:002009-01-19T20:37:00.000+00:00Scandals disappear when right is done and seen to ...Scandals disappear when right is done and seen to be done and justice is done and seen to be done. <BR/>Far too often it seems to non-Catholics that if you have enough friends in Rome you escape censure.<BR/>The Pope is regarded by many religious as just another bishop and by some as not even first among equals.<BR/>This allows bishops to be absolute monarchs of their dioceses and we all know that power corrupts, etc.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-20346106097599985442009-01-19T20:16:00.000+00:002009-01-19T20:16:00.000+00:00Perhaps the Vatican should just interfere more oft...Perhaps the Vatican should just interfere more often.<BR/><BR/>St Wulstan: pray for us.<BR/>(He's was a jolly good bishop and it's his feast day today!)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-21787639860385438312009-01-19T18:59:00.000+00:002009-01-19T18:59:00.000+00:00The Holy Father could appoint a coadjutor bishop a...The Holy Father could appoint a coadjutor bishop and reserve areas of responsibility to him. It is not unknown for Rome to appoint coadjutors as a way of reducing the authority of the ordinary and bringing him into line. I am sure that the ordinary would eventually get tired of someone looking over his shoulder and concede the diocese to him!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-47140260362451524142009-01-19T18:18:00.000+00:002009-01-19T18:18:00.000+00:00We will get over these scandals,we survived a lot ...We will get over these scandals,we survived a lot worse in the 18th and 19th centuries when the entire propaganda machine of the Anglican Church was out to destroy Catholicism completely.<BR/><BR/>We must be costantly on guard against EVIL.The Bishops have to be on guard.I do not think that resignations are the answer,sackings or weeding out may be one way but we must remain calm and above all STAUNCH.nickbrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09803733028691380861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-33191243611528708832009-01-19T17:44:00.000+00:002009-01-19T17:44:00.000+00:00Isn't there something in canon law that allows lit...Isn't there something in canon law that allows litigation against a Bishop before the Roman tribunals?<BR/><BR/>And when minors are sexually abused or suspected of being so, wouldn't it be <I>de rigeur</I> to involve the police?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-57425437548093027352009-01-19T17:13:00.000+00:002009-01-19T17:13:00.000+00:00Look up St Bruno and the simoniac bishop of Rheims...Look up St Bruno and the simoniac bishop of Rheims ...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-7502688743299754732009-01-19T17:04:00.000+00:002009-01-19T17:04:00.000+00:00Fr Blake you have got it right! The issue isn't th...Fr Blake you have got it right! The issue isn't the imperfection of the bishops, as we are all imperfect but simply the lack of accountability and unwillingnes to either accept criticism or indeed welcome it.<BR/><BR/>The UK Catholic Church has become a cash cow for liberal project managers many of them, as you rightly say, either salaried laymen/women or simply lay volunteers with time on their hands.<BR/><BR/>This is corruption on an unparalled scale.Sadie Vacantisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04823532366874114366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-58810181699365072742009-01-19T16:46:00.000+00:002009-01-19T16:46:00.000+00:00I would never call you a "wet liberal", Fr. Blake!...I would never call you a "wet liberal", Fr. Blake!Jane Teresahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13600049915009261737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-90236933770808558812009-01-19T16:44:00.000+00:002009-01-19T16:44:00.000+00:00I often wonder what St.Peter would make of all thi...I often wonder what St.Peter would make of all this. I can't help thinking he would get these people by the scruff of the neck and show them the door.<BR/><BR/>St. Peter pray for us<BR/>St. Athanasius pray for us<BR/>St. Antony of Padua pray for us.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com