tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post1761328505720217836..comments2023-12-16T16:17:43.886+00:00Comments on Fr Ray Blake's Blog: Ambrosian "Hodie in Bethlehem puer natus est"Fr Ray Blakehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05584140126211527252noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-64595168715857021122011-01-01T19:44:02.078+00:002011-01-01T19:44:02.078+00:00Thanks for linking to my video of the Gloria, Fath...Thanks for linking to my video of the Gloria, Father!<br /><br />Pastor in Valle, as for the chant:<br /><br />What you hear there IS a reconstruction, as IanW said, of how Mozarabic chant may have sounded like back in its heyday, and thus, I believe, it is probably going to pose a bit of a hurdle for your average parish choir (but see here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7Vnbn456Qw). Mozarabic Chant as it is heard recently I believe (based on the pieces performed by the monks at Santo Domingo de Silos) has become much more 'tame', somewhat more 'Gregorian-ized' (cf. this version of the Mozarabe Gloria: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaUkS9aq8ms).Patrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05958467246648332083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-26016874635868625602010-12-31T13:31:32.902+00:002010-12-31T13:31:32.902+00:00Mozorabic chant as we have it today is a reconstuc...Mozorabic chant as we have it today is a reconstuction, published at the beginning of the 16th century by Cardinal Jiménez de Cisneros, following a period of suppresion of the Rite. I gather the view of specialists is that this reconstruction is significantly influenced by Gregorian chant. I'm glad we have it, though, as it adds to the richness of the Church's liturgical and musical culture.IanWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14802289720095323373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-14053433332348612382010-12-31T00:46:51.103+00:002010-12-31T00:46:51.103+00:00the mozarabic was ... beautiful, haunting? thank ...the mozarabic was ... beautiful, haunting? thank you, and have a blessed Christmastide, and a blessed new year.tubbshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07272003035464034763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-7076827703797385382010-12-28T13:57:06.980+00:002010-12-28T13:57:06.980+00:00It sounds awful to me, let's hope it doesnt sp...It sounds awful to me, let's hope it doesnt spread past Milan!Mavis Longneckernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-59111031814633952462010-12-27T19:47:23.723+00:002010-12-27T19:47:23.723+00:00It's great stuff; the Gloria is familiar, the ...It's great stuff; the Gloria is familiar, the performance intriguing. But<br />(a) how much about the performance is speculation? I can't believe (though perhaps I'm wrong) that a living tradition has all those ornamentations.<br />(b) it would be more difficult to perform for a normal choir than would, say, a Palestrina Mass.Pastor in Montehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05949810648656544072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-19269671716430248102010-12-27T16:14:07.336+00:002010-12-27T16:14:07.336+00:00Here is a modern day Mozarabic Mass.
http://www.y...Here is a modern day Mozarabic Mass.<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tXl5yMxwZU<br /><br />No chant and altar girls!. You will notice the altar girl in the beginning of the video. Sad isn't it!!.<br /><br />No offence Father, but most Catholic clerics of your generation and before yours, have done some serious damage to the Roman Rite Mass, and other Rites of the Catholic Church as a whole after the Second Vatican Council.Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01725445787551443589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-27226097115957250522010-12-26T17:48:10.898+00:002010-12-26T17:48:10.898+00:00The Mozarabic Gloria is beautiful and very recogni...The Mozarabic Gloria is beautiful and very recognisable in some of its parts.<br />Happy Christmas to you and all your readers.<br />May 2011 bring much joy and progress in your magnum opusgeorgemnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-89708784844497545882010-12-26T10:55:15.677+00:002010-12-26T10:55:15.677+00:00One can certainly hear the influence of the Middle...One can certainly hear the influence of the Middle East in both chants. Of course, considering that the Church was born in that part of the world, that should come as no surprise. <br /><br />I have always found Mozarabic chant to possess a singular beauty. Even though it is less 'peaceful' than Gregorian, the Mozarabic is hauntingly melodic.parepidemoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06416012601568784997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-2802796476425911752010-12-26T10:12:48.230+00:002010-12-26T10:12:48.230+00:00I love chant, but the Gloria is fabulous!I love chant, but the Gloria is fabulous!Anniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10653640127655491512noreply@blogger.com