tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post1860809259104315282..comments2023-12-16T16:17:43.886+00:00Comments on Fr Ray Blake's Blog: A Preference for Roman VestmentsFr Ray Blakehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05584140126211527252noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-11979520702635090912012-11-27T12:41:20.702+00:002012-11-27T12:41:20.702+00:00Deacon Tony. I think you'll find that the orth...Deacon Tony. I think you'll find that the orthodox amongst us have learnt the importance of tolerance and are happy to accommodate and learn from those with a different liturgical tradition to themselves, as opposed to taking to the new media to openly snipe, carp and gossip about brother clergy and fellow Catholics at every opportunity.<br /><br />Your repeated snides on here and other forms of social media and open animosity towards various Catholics who you perceive to be of a right-wing political persuasion or traditionalist bent are as disappointing as they are misguided. I am sure that as someone who regularly uses his holy orders to justify his jibes at others you would be horrified to learn that you are fast becoming a source of much concern and scandal.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11533891150770805063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-80352341124902637222012-11-27T03:52:18.159+00:002012-11-27T03:52:18.159+00:00p.s. my nephew once said to me when I'd poured...p.s. my nephew once said to me when I'd poured myself a nightcap, 'oh, vodka, really? This time of night' I stood there suddenly feeling like a lush. I took the tipple anyway, but we've all been there Father.Our Lady of Good Success-pray for us.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14746510579669229511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-27770171553766583512012-11-27T03:25:08.443+00:002012-11-27T03:25:08.443+00:00God Bless the unpc child else we wouldn't have...God Bless the unpc child else we wouldn't have this post!<br /><br />"with you I am a Christian, for you I am a priest" - with the Priest facing the peeps the Mass feels more like a conversation between the peeps and the Priest. i find myself staring at the ceiling decorations to remind myself that somewhere there are seraphim and cherubim singing with us and angels taking up our prayers even if there's no incense to carry them on.Our Lady of Good Success-pray for us.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14746510579669229511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-69984921070549746032012-11-27T00:03:22.433+00:002012-11-27T00:03:22.433+00:00Shortly after his coronation, Bl. John XXIII heard...Shortly after his coronation, Bl. John XXIII heard a woman remark "isn't he fat!" He replied "Signora, a conclave is not a beauty contest".John Nolanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09027156691859606002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-27332139980043061542012-11-26T18:24:52.556+00:002012-11-26T18:24:52.556+00:00What I object to is what a writer once called &quo...<br />What I object to is what a writer once called "clusters of belief". A common one is that us.ant = Roman style vestments. I don't mind them provided they are not exiguous and minimilist. My views are purely stylistic and from the pew as I never worn a chasuble.vetusta ecclesiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09454059029260192711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-56295146923792457272012-11-26T17:49:50.224+00:002012-11-26T17:49:50.224+00:00I much prefer the fuller Borromean-style Roman cha...I much prefer the fuller Borromean-style Roman chasuble to the smaller almost apron-like ones of the late 19th, early 20th Century.Conchúrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06616869558976756046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-32716381974047534372012-11-26T17:11:50.519+00:002012-11-26T17:11:50.519+00:00I think you'll find the more orthodox concentr...I think you'll find the more orthodox concentrate on the prayer aspect of the liturgy rather than the showTony Flavinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12303412739124761978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-35477260375812463132012-11-26T17:11:38.112+00:002012-11-26T17:11:38.112+00:00Nothing wrong in making it easier to pray to God. ...Nothing wrong in making it easier to pray to God. Why have to force yourself to concentrate in order to ignore latecomers, and a possible shifting, restless congregation?<br />It seems to me you'd have to spend more time concentrating on concentrating than on prayer itself.Gentyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05569143943867323153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-45006260512201530752012-11-26T15:42:43.684+00:002012-11-26T15:42:43.684+00:00I certainly think it is easier to pray with one...I certainly think it is easier to pray with one's back to the people, as I do at all weekday Masses simply because the altar is fixed to the wall. To say Mass facing the people requires the priest to concentrate more on the God to whom he is directing his prayer. I think therefore that priests who prefer to say Mass with their back to the people are probably opting for it because it is easier, and I am not sure that is a good reason.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-20269297569894842682012-11-26T15:21:14.662+00:002012-11-26T15:21:14.662+00:00Have you noticed, Father, how the right hand side ...Have you noticed, Father, how the right hand side of the chasuble folds in on itself? Having just taken some (rather old) vestments for cleaning & slight refurbishment the cleaner suggested I have some tailors' canvas sewn in the prevent that happening.<br />Whilst agreeing wholeheartedly with your preference this is a niggle.David O'Neillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04023042558615821880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-10557265506396641662012-11-26T13:56:38.872+00:002012-11-26T13:56:38.872+00:00My own preference in the way of a chasuble (not th...My own preference in the way of a chasuble (not that I wear one) has always been for the Gothic rather than the Roman. The Roman has always reminded me of someone standing in the street wearing sandwich boards with some kind of cryptic message on such as "Prepare to meet thy doom" or perhaps "Eagle Boys Pizzas, $5 take away"JARayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18138004129894177863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-57181447220187193252012-11-26T12:18:56.609+00:002012-11-26T12:18:56.609+00:00"There is something strange and unnatural abo..."There is something strange and unnatural about just seeing someone's torso above the altar, which I suppose might be the reason for altars that consist of a mensa on legs, or even as I have seen in Italy a glass or perspex altar."<br /><br />I once read an article by a playwright, who stated that if you want the audience to have empathy with a character, they have to be able to see his feet. I'm not sure why this is true, but it seems a pretty reliable rule of thumb. Ben Whitworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00499311491843942923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-47651086694357530952012-11-26T12:16:52.615+00:002012-11-26T12:16:52.615+00:00This comment has been removed by the author.Ben Whitworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00499311491843942923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-82649614257217295782012-11-26T12:03:42.337+00:002012-11-26T12:03:42.337+00:00It's a real shame that children pick up a sens...It's a real shame that children pick up a sense being fat is wrong, so hopefully your response would have made her feel it is perfectly nice to notice that some of are bigger than others. I'm fat and I work hard to help my kids understand that fat and thin are just different body sizes like blonde and brunette are different hair colours and not some moral failure or success. Lucyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14907284328066937884noreply@blogger.com