tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post2238540006624542802..comments2023-12-16T16:17:43.886+00:00Comments on Fr Ray Blake's Blog: Erotic Jesus sparks art debate in AustriaFr Ray Blakehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05584140126211527252noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-5175277791587634182010-01-30T01:58:05.695+00:002010-01-30T01:58:05.695+00:00Jesus said: "When I return will I find anyone...Jesus said: "When I return will I find anyone with faith."warthpublishinginchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14088346646501228101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-62315050410858051952008-04-11T19:03:00.000+01:002008-04-11T19:03:00.000+01:00volpius leonius is right. I would go further - sac...volpius leonius is right. I would go further - sack 'em all and jail the 'so-called' artist under the filth, obscenity and religious 'blasphemy' laws. Oh these only exist for muslims???? Well that's new to me (like heck!)Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13031618301013986930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-75909206219059039162008-04-10T22:35:00.000+01:002008-04-10T22:35:00.000+01:00Is he sacking the person who did approve it then?I...Is he sacking the person who did approve it then?<BR/><BR/>Is he going to perform the penitential rite required by Canon Law before any further worship takes place at the Cathedral?<BR/><BR/>Here is the rest of what the cardinal said:<BR/><BR/>"In some of (the pictures) he oversteps the essential threshold of respect for the sacred," <BR/><BR/>That's a nice way of referring to blasphemy isn't it?<BR/><BR/>But he also defended Hrdlicka as one of Austria's most notable living artists...<BR/><BR/>"Hrdlicka...probably more than any other living artist, has devoted himself to the suffering and downtrodden human being and has appealed for "compassion" with the "Passion," he said.<BR/><BR/>So it's ok for him to draw blasphemous pictures because he is a humanist.<BR/><BR/>The museum has said it did not set out to offend people but has defended Hrdlicka's work and the decision to display the controversial versions of biblical imagery.<BR/><BR/>The museum director, Bernhard Boehler has previously said "We think Hrdlicka is entitled to represent people in this carnal, drastic way,"<BR/><BR/>He also said the museum never intended to offend people but that art should be allowed to provoke a debate.<BR/><BR/>So clearly he knew some people would feel strongly about the pictures in advance and was hoping to provoke a reaction.<BR/><BR/>This is further borne out by the words of one of the curators, Martina Judt who said the exhibition was meant to prompt this kind of balanced reaction. <BR/><BR/>So clearly the museum is lying they knew full well it would cause a strong reaction and that is given as the reason they allowed them to be displayed.<BR/><BR/>"I still hold the opinion that we must welcome the fact that artists who do not share our faith, or are still searching for belief, occupy themselves so intensively with biblical subjects," he said.<BR/><BR/>So according to the Cardinal we should actually welcome artists who mock Christ and the Apostles by drawing pictures of them committing homosexual acts. The idea been that we should be grateful they actually get a mention at all.<BR/><BR/>The Cardinal should admit he has failed in his duty and apologise, not make lame excuses which is what he has done. He should sack the museum director who allowed this to take place and in so doing has let the Cardinal down and offended all Christians and also Christ and the Apostles and he should say the penitential rite in reparation to God for the grave offence caused by this appalling blasphemy been committed in a Cathedral, God's very own house.<BR/><BR/>There are such things as sins of omission you know, saying you forgot or were to busy to protect God's Cathedral from blasphemy just isn't good enough from a Prince of the Church, he clearly is an admirer of this drawer of pornographic pictures which is even more disturbing.Volpius Leoniushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10273209983337706262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-8241129263373362552008-04-10T00:36:00.000+01:002008-04-10T00:36:00.000+01:00Cardinal Schönborn's statement says: "From the poi...<A HREF="http://stephanscom.at/artikel/a14574" REL="nofollow">Cardinal Schönborn's statement</A> says: "From the point of view of committed Christians, certain of his works must quite clearly be rejected. I obviously would not have agreed to have blasphemous or pornographic works exhibited. I therefore explicitly regret that a work of this kind was exhibited without my knowledge. I ordered the particular work - which committed believers find deeply distressing - to be removed on 20 March.<BR/><BR/>"Nevertheless, I still hold the opinion that we must welcome the fact that artists who do not share our faith, or are still searching for belief, occupy themselves so intensively with biblical subjects."<BR/><BR/>[Personally I wish he had made a more urgent apology and a stronger condemnation of sacrilege...but we should certainly not think that the Cardinal knew what was coming or approved of it.]James Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14920630970670983025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-11874074197593529892008-04-09T20:44:00.000+01:002008-04-09T20:44:00.000+01:00update: Cardinal Christoph Schönborn has issued ...update: Cardinal Christoph Schönborn has issued a statement defending the decision to host an art exhibit featuring homo-erotic images of Christ and the apostles at the Vienna cathedral's museum.<BR/><BR/>What is wrong with these sick people and how did they get to be made Cardinal's?Volpius Leoniushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10273209983337706262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-75143096797397437612008-04-08T18:11:00.000+01:002008-04-08T18:11:00.000+01:00In saner times, there would have been a deliberati...In saner times, there would have been a deliberation over whether to hang the artist and the person in charge of the museum.Aduliohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00534730218402742905noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-30912657947615145292008-04-07T21:41:00.000+01:002008-04-07T21:41:00.000+01:00This would never have happened if Captain Daniels ...This would never have happened if Captain Daniels had been in charge.Volpius Leoniushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10273209983337706262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-57808643472222341362008-04-07T20:10:00.000+01:002008-04-07T20:10:00.000+01:00Indeed henry isn't our tolerance of evil so wonder...Indeed henry isn't our tolerance of evil so wonderful, even when it is found within the Church herself nothing is done about it.<BR/><BR/>That Cathredral is desecrated.<BR/><BR/>Can. 1211 Sacred places are violated by gravely injurious actions done in them with scandal to the faithful, actions which, in the judgment of the local ordinary, are so grave and contrary to the holiness of the place that it is not permitted to carry on worship in them until the damage is repaired by a penitential rite according to the norm of the liturgical books.Volpius Leoniushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10273209983337706262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-76000375406053257132008-04-07T19:20:00.000+01:002008-04-07T19:20:00.000+01:00Someone should be punished for this disgrace if th...Someone should be punished for this disgrace if there is any justice.<BR/><BR/>Words cannot express how furious I am right now after reading that, I am going to pray to God to take swift vengeance on those responsible.<BR/><BR/>"But he that shall scandalize one of these little ones that believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone should be hanged about his neck, and that he should be drowned in the depth of the sea." Matthew 18:6Volpius Leoniushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10273209983337706262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-27729361242569292272008-04-07T19:13:00.000+01:002008-04-07T19:13:00.000+01:00This kind of thing sounds distasteful and certainl...This kind of thing sounds distasteful and certainly no Cathedral museum should be promoting it. But no Austrian flags are going to be burnt.<BR/><BR/>Some "artists" will stop at nothing to get attention, and the real trouble is people give itPhysiocrathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13682019625346594568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-8490277962742433702008-04-07T17:41:00.000+01:002008-04-07T17:41:00.000+01:00Just gobsmacked! What can you say? That the artist...Just gobsmacked! What can you say? That the artist is a dysfunctional anti-Catholic degenerate is one thing, but Church authorities allowing this into a Catholic Cathedral is sickening. Again, just like Tony Blair in the pulpit of Westminster Cathedral this obscenity of 'artwork' is 'the abomination in the place where it ought not to be'.<BR/><BR/>With all these things taking place one wonders how close to hand is the Apocalypse we have been warned of by St John. How much longer can Our Blessed Mother stay the hand of her Son - who offered Himself unto death for our redemption, only to be scorned, mocked and villified by those He came into the world to save. <BR/><BR/>It all just makes you want to weep!Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13031618301013986930noreply@blogger.com