tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post2919454106577797930..comments2023-12-16T16:17:43.886+00:00Comments on Fr Ray Blake's Blog: The Catholic BrandFr Ray Blakehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05584140126211527252noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-67813490501300810122010-08-30T09:00:59.938+01:002010-08-30T09:00:59.938+01:00Pax, Chris. There was no implied criticism of othe...Pax, Chris. There was no implied criticism of other rites in my post. Where I live I have only the experience of the Latin rite, or whatever remains of it . . .. so I was being very parochial. <br />I agree re the fasting. I rather think that reducing the fast to one hour not only diminishes the awesome reception of Our Lord but results in hardly anyone fasting at all.<br />In the Latin rite Masses I attend the bow, which replaced the genuflection, has become virtually non-existent.<br />Now I'm going to add a Latin rite "do try" to my list.<br />Dear indulgent mothers, your restless son is old enough to go Holy Communion, so do try your best to resist him lolling against you during the Mass while you put your arm around him and ruffle his hair,(it doesn't seem to apply to daughters). It's rather distracting for the person behind you.georgemnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-29725665700997267702010-08-26T23:11:32.553+01:002010-08-26T23:11:32.553+01:00Sorry Chris,
I am a Latin Rite priest, concerned p...Sorry Chris,<br />I am a Latin Rite priest, concerned principally with a country that is Western. I suspect most of readers are not familiar with non-Latin Rites in the west outside of the US they tend not to be part our immediate cultural legacy.<br />My abject appologies, I certainly have a great respect for the culture of the East, as I would hope those of the East would have of the West, including what some might consider our odd peculiarities.<br />I don't think you will find any attempt here to put the East down, on the contrary I think we might be a little too indulgent especially with our Orthodox friends.Fr Ray Blakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05584140126211527252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-91146493780024678682010-08-26T23:11:14.987+01:002010-08-26T23:11:14.987+01:00Sorry Chris,
I am a Latin Rite priest, concerned p...Sorry Chris,<br />I am a Latin Rite priest, concerned principally with a country that is Western. I suspect most of readers are not familiar with non-Latin Rites in the west outside of the US they tend not to be part our immediate cultural legacy.<br />My abject appologies, I certainly have a great respect for the culture of the East, as I would hope those of the East would have of the West, including what some might consider our odd peculiarities.<br />I don't think you will find any attempt here to put the East down, on the contrary I think we might be a little too indulgent especially with our Orthodox friends.Fr Ray Blakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05584140126211527252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-1852738286894294542010-08-26T22:10:56.961+01:002010-08-26T22:10:56.961+01:00Interesting comments. All very "Latin" a...Interesting comments. All very "Latin" and all very "European".<br /><br />Georgem: <br /><br />The people in the church I belong to never kneel to receive Communion. This is a practise unknown to us. We never receive under one kind only as this would be unthinkable and just doesn't make sense to us.<br /><br />We don't genufluect(we bow). Our churches usually don't have a tabernacle in the center anyway. And we don't have holydays of obligation.<br /><br />So I guess that means we're not really Catholic according to the criteria of most folk who've made comments (gemoftheocean...thanks). It's a pity because we're Eastern Rite Catholics and our fast (normally from midnight unless illness prevents) makes the Latin Rite fast seem like a joke and our Divine Liturgies make the Tridentine Mass look like something Calvin would have thought up (only partly joking).<br /><br />Folk - always remember that the Latin Church may be the largest but it's only one of 23 Churches in communion with the Bishop of Rome. Open your minds to what Catholicism really is....heck most Catholics are African, South American or Asian....most of us sure ain't European. Those who believe - and behave - differently are in cloud cuckoo land.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11065591409073478480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-13220657815594210742010-08-26T16:23:04.409+01:002010-08-26T16:23:04.409+01:00Jackie, it's ALWAYS the interior that matters ...Jackie, it's ALWAYS the interior that matters the most. Reprobates can "act holy" and be evil to the core, and lambs can look "casual."<br /><br />I guess in some minds Eastern Rite Catholics aren't really catholics because they "Stand aright and in awe."<br /><br />As far as "Brand" goes, not yet mentioned:<br /><br /><br />cards in the wallet that say "I am a CAtholic, in case of emergency, please call a priest."gemoftheoceanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05521207668262592414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-51281075266817320322010-08-26T14:33:41.627+01:002010-08-26T14:33:41.627+01:00Unbleached candles and palls at funerals.Unbleached candles and palls at funerals.Ttonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15185875893212146794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-3899397346524896162010-08-26T14:25:47.011+01:002010-08-26T14:25:47.011+01:00Spot on GOR- the first thing that greets those who...Spot on GOR- the first thing that greets those who enter my front door is a framed photo of the Holy Father with a miniature scarlet biretta (of "Gamarelli" fame) perched precariously on one corner.<br />And if they don't like what they see they can leave!universal doctorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16799857998804342261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-442388170428789982010-08-26T13:44:50.577+01:002010-08-26T13:44:50.577+01:00Sanctuary Lamps
Priests wearing black – suits and ...Sanctuary Lamps<br />Priests wearing black – suits and bib or shirt Roman collars - not grey, purple, blue or (horrors!) pink.<br />Doffing hats or making the Sign of the Cross when passing a Catholic church<br />Same when passing a cemetery<br />Mass Cards<br />In Memoriam cards<br />Black vestments for funeral Masses<br />House blessings<br />First Fridays<br />First Saturdays<br />Holy water fonts in homes<br />Other religious objects in homes – pictures, statues<br /><br />Re the last two - it seems today that some Catholics are embarrassed to be identified as Catholics. When someone enters your home they should be able to tell right away that you are Catholic - and not ashamed of it!GORhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14313101159848740722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-55218089196137130452010-08-26T13:44:08.601+01:002010-08-26T13:44:08.601+01:00Finding a Church open during the day might be a st...Finding a Church open during the day might be a start. Many now seem to be locked up during the day and only open for Mass and after that they close and lock up again.<br />On holiday I was rather surprised to see that at least one Cathedral adopts the same practice. Considering that during the week (apart from Holidays of Obligation) they only have one Mass a day ...<br /><br />Was the idea of the locked Church apart from services not an innovation of Calvin ?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09216619732353177072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-38873706635984908722010-08-26T13:17:27.291+01:002010-08-26T13:17:27.291+01:00Paulinus mentions 'rainbow ribbons'. What...Paulinus mentions 'rainbow ribbons'. What is it about rainbow ribbons these days? In Lourdes this year the theme is 'The sign of the Cross' and each pilgrimage has planted a Cross around the large Breton Cross at one of the main entrances. There is a wide variety and I searched for that of our own diocese. There it was - a plain Cross with rainbow ribbons waving in the breeze!<br /><br />Nobody has mentioned Holy Water so far for the 'Catholic brand.'pelerinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-44660819356453509762010-08-26T12:31:01.615+01:002010-08-26T12:31:01.615+01:00Romanesque churches!!Romanesque churches!!Deliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01383433319373651830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-17847624914139399132010-08-26T11:34:36.922+01:002010-08-26T11:34:36.922+01:00Kneeling to receive
Fasting at least three hours b...Kneeling to receive<br />Fasting at least three hours before Holy Communion (of one kind)<br />Distribution by priest only<br />Reinstatement of the Real Presence to the central altar tabernacle<br />Genuflection (we weren't called left-footers for nothing) - and at the Credo<br />Double genuflection at Exposition and no chitchat<br />Unobtrusive clothes at Mass (no beachwear!)<br />Reinstatement of Holy Days of Obligation to their proper dates<br />Bishops who believe in the Catholic faithgeorgemnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-37220012091221531902010-08-26T10:49:01.930+01:002010-08-26T10:49:01.930+01:00A little niggle, Father. Though I, like you, disl...A little niggle, Father. Though I, like you, dislike the 'artist', her name is actually spelt Emin. That said, I prefer your spelling, - it rhymes with 'lemming'!SurreyCatholicnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-70224188030579021632010-08-26T10:42:28.420+01:002010-08-26T10:42:28.420+01:00Here's another one: Celebrate Feast Days among...Here's another one: Celebrate Feast Days among friends and acquaintances.<br /><br />Dear Fr Ray,<br />Happy pseudonymical Greetings to you, your Blog-Readers and your Parishioners on one's pseudonymical Feast Day.<br /><br />Happy Zephyrinus !!!Zephyrinushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01179350648709554049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-83999094266311172812010-08-26T08:48:31.651+01:002010-08-26T08:48:31.651+01:00What we have:
An abstract figure or a 'Resurre...What we have:<br />An abstract figure or a 'Resurrection' statue<br />A vaguely abstract figure of a woman (could be any woman) and a child<br />Someone in an alb (or maybe not) sitting round a coffee table on which are placed some earthenware vessels<br />Multicoloured fairtrade candles burning in a 'prayer space'<br />rosary beads [You kidding me?]<br />rainbow ribbons<br />smell of lavender<br />Blessed Sacrament in a nondescript box in a side chapel<br />Invitations to 'peace' demos<br />Constant wittering<br />Sub-Bob Dylan ditties<br />Shine Jesus Shine<br />Hugs<br />Elderly feminists in trouser suits<br />No monks no more<br />bishops in polo shirts<br />concrete monstrositiesPaulinushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07764882488839589040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-18581239460117488142010-08-26T00:26:26.272+01:002010-08-26T00:26:26.272+01:00simple Romanesque,simple Romanesque,Latin Mass contacthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02409073256116967557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-41248210677387364922010-08-25T23:04:56.977+01:002010-08-25T23:04:56.977+01:00Most of the things on your list would also apply t...Most of the things on your list would also apply to the Russian Orthodox Church and other Orthodox Churchs and even the so-called Anglo-Catholics.<br /><br />A brand is an easily recognisably symbol or sign that is unique to the company or products - for example the Golden Arches is the brand symbol of McDonalds. [Brands also are meant to convey values that consumers will like and "identify with] but I'll ignore that element].<br /><br />For the Roman Catholic Church it's got to be <br /><br />the Pope.<br /><br />R: Domine, conservet eum....Bryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15560006282627072784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-62711446134048223622010-08-25T22:01:58.054+01:002010-08-25T22:01:58.054+01:00Latin, birettas, Faith . . .Latin, birettas, Faith . . .Dominic Maryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14514722976964423091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-48471813457000279652010-08-25T21:56:45.220+01:002010-08-25T21:56:45.220+01:00While we are on the subject of nuns in habits..I&#...While we are on the subject of nuns in habits..I'm always surprised to see ALL Bridgittines & Contemplative orders.. (some..that nice DVD about a Carmelite order in London) well I'm always shocked seeing them stand, receive on the hand & distribute & receive the Precious Blood. I did speak with the Mother Generals but apparently they do so in Roma..& it's how all are asked so as not to have some falling down kneeling..oh coz they don't use the kneelers..so I look a complete fool..but that's not unusual..<br />Well however I have to say in all truthfulness they do receive Our Lord most reverently so I'm pondering a bit on this one ..Jackie Parkes MJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16693505024823229152noreply@blogger.com