tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post3815801337642413960..comments2023-12-16T16:17:43.886+00:00Comments on Fr Ray Blake's Blog: Cardinal Renato Martino calls Gaza a "concentration camp"Fr Ray Blakehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05584140126211527252noreply@blogger.comBlogger56125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-62020548310077110882009-01-11T21:28:00.000+00:002009-01-11T21:28:00.000+00:00Had enough of this.COMMENTS CLOSEDHad enough of this.<BR/>COMMENTS CLOSEDFr Ray Blakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05584140126211527252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-31488725002802954292009-01-11T19:40:00.000+00:002009-01-11T19:40:00.000+00:00KarenMy son was not demonstrating 'in favour of Ha...Karen<BR/>My son was not demonstrating 'in favour of Hamas'. The demo was a 'Stop the War' protest and there were Jewish anti-war protesters there and Jewish speakers too. One placard was spotted 'Jews against the War on Gaza.'<BR/><BR/>All people there had braved the bitter cold to demonstrate their desire for peace - to hopefully convey to our members of parliament that something must be done. The situation cannot, must not, continue as it is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-73011045468846819922009-01-11T17:13:00.000+00:002009-01-11T17:13:00.000+00:00Pelerin, I'd be ashamed of any kin of mine demonst...Pelerin, I'd be ashamed of any kin of mine demonstrating in favor of Hamas. Apparently your son has amnesia about who started this in the first place.<BR/><BR/>I suppose you'll be "proud" of him if Germany starts lobbing rockets into France, then hides behind women and children, and France retaliates and in the process German women and children get killed, along with the ******** that started it in the first place.<BR/><BR/>SURRRRRRe.<BR/><BR/>Which is why, btw, many Americans don't respect the French as regards foreign policy. We like your food, art, fashion, and many of the people are nice, but your politics are often to us, obscene for whom you support.<BR/><BR/>I'd be "proud" of your son if he demonstrated against Hamas, in the streets of Paris...but given the hatred for Israel amongst the French, that's about as likely as hell freezing over. that would be guts on his part.<BR/><BR/>To some of you others:<BR/>Rockets aimed by Hamas are not exactly equivalent to a ten year old throwing a stone. I thought even clueless people would know that.<BR/><BR/>If Israel wanted to turn that whole place into a parking lot, they could. Frankly, I think they've shown restraint by not doing so. As Michael pointed out, they gave up the Gaza some years ago. But no. Hamas still isn't "happy" because they have to get their "kill all the Jews" jollies statisfied.<BR/><BR/>I will never forget that Palestinian woman jumping up and down with glee on 9/11. And if by some serendipity, she was under a retaliatory strike, I'd say what payback was.<BR/><BR/>And Amina, way to go. I managed to read through your screed without my eyes bleeding, just to make sure you weren't one of the few Muslims [if any] who condemmed Hamas for bringing all that down on their heads and the heads of their women and children. Try loving your children more than hating Jews. You'll be able to go shopping and get to work easier. Just a thought. Oh, remind me again, who deliberatly used the Church of the Nativity as a toilet when they took hostages? Wasn't Israeli soliders. It was those "peaceful" Muslims.<BR/><BR/>Some of you people need to get a grip. If in living memory 6 million of you were herded into gas chambers specifically because you your religious background and suffered a holocaust, you expect them to go to the gas chambers again within living memory. Fortunately modern Jews are not as clueless to give up their arms or go down without a fight. The Jews didn't start this thing with the intention of killing innocent women and children - nor do they carry out attack with that in mind - otherwise the place WOULD be a parking lot. But please don't act like idiots caterwauling about "innocent women and children" when Hamas is hiding behind them lobbing rockets into Israel.gemoftheoceanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05521207668262592414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-5816058981118888942009-01-11T07:33:00.000+00:002009-01-11T07:33:00.000+00:00Joe of St Therese, you're absolutely right! People...Joe of St Therese, you're absolutely right! People must seek the peace of Christ in the Kingdom of Christ.<BR/><BR/>There are a lot of people in the Holy Land who could do with a change of religion.<BR/><BR/>We know from Romans 9-11 that the Jews will one day recognise the Messiah and believe as Christians do.<BR/><BR/>The question is, will the Muslims?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-74546611268502032262009-01-10T19:23:00.001+00:002009-01-10T19:23:00.001+00:00There's one solution to this mess...Jesus and His ...There's one solution to this mess...Jesus and His Church, plain and simple, that's the ONLY way TRUE peace will ever come to this region.Joe of St. Thérèsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06506671882770822003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-26906928872014407352009-01-10T19:23:00.000+00:002009-01-10T19:23:00.000+00:00Thank you, Pelerin for sharing this information ab...Thank you, Pelerin for sharing this information about your son.<BR/><BR/>The number of people who make vile and vicious comments on this site while claiming to be true Catholics, and conveniently forgetting Israel's part in building up Hamas in the first place, astounds me. There are no Jew-haters among those on this thread who support the Palestinian civilians (both Muslim and Christian) who are living in a prison / concentration camp created by the zionist state of Israel. It may surprise those of you who think Jew = zionist, that Jews who truly practise their religion have no love for zionism either:<BR/>see http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/<BR/><BR/>The British for their own political ends initiated the idea of having a “national home for Jewish people” in Palestine in 1917 with the Balfour Declaration. Of course, with typical British duplicitousness, they also added this was only on the understanding that "nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine”. They really kept their word on that one (just the same as they did in Northern Ireland)!epsilonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17785182500278281351noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-75192270956432921872009-01-10T18:15:00.000+00:002009-01-10T18:15:00.000+00:00I mean, Pete, that the faithfulness of God, and th...I mean, Pete, that the faithfulness of God, and the patriotsm of Jesus Christ and His perfect exercise of the royal office of David, are the cause of which the indestructibility of the Jews as an identifiable people is the effect.<BR/><BR/>Their social and political organisation as a State is a matter of divine Providence, as it is with every nation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-57518823587384663692009-01-10T17:52:00.000+00:002009-01-10T17:52:00.000+00:00Michael,"Ergo, Israel exists as a nation."If you m...Michael,<BR/>"Ergo, Israel exists as a nation."<BR/><BR/>If you mean Israel as a nation state exists, that is a non sequitur.<BR/>The covenants exist, that is all, as they did in 2nd-19th century.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-60678683663131487752009-01-10T17:12:00.000+00:002009-01-10T17:12:00.000+00:00Ottaviani, there was not one Old Covenant, but at ...Ottaviani, there was not one Old Covenant, but at least three before the coming of Christ.<BR/><BR/>The covenant of Abraham established Israel as a people and preserves her indestructible.<BR/><BR/>The covenant of David sets a dynasty of kings over Israel forever.<BR/><BR/>The covenant of Moses established the way of divine worship for Israel until the coming of Christ.<BR/><BR/>The first two are permanent, and the third has been superseded, because Jesus is a son of both Abraham and David, but not of Aaron.<BR/><BR/>These covenants are not salvific. Only the New Covenant is.<BR/><BR/>God continues to keep covenant with Israel and with the the House of David, because it is His nature to be faithful.<BR/><BR/>His faithfulness is expressed through the Sacred Humanity of Jesus as <I>patriotism.</I><BR/><BR/>Jesus is a son of Israel. Pious reverence for one's native homeland and people is a virtue and is pre-eminently perfect in Christ and integral to His sinless human nature.<BR/><BR/><I>Ergo,</I> Israel exists as a nation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-86621183906046671422009-01-10T15:55:00.000+00:002009-01-10T15:55:00.000+00:00How I agree with Paul Knight's last comment. The s...How I agree with Paul Knight's last comment. The scenes being shown on our televisions have been heartbreaking to see.<BR/><BR/>I felt very proud this week when one of my sons told me that he took part in last week's demo and at this moment is taking part in today's demo in London. I never realised before his concern for justice in this way - I always knew he was very caring (he is a fire fighter) but had no idea he thought strongly enough about the plight of the Palestinians to demonstrate in this way. I am indeed a proud mum.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-20740553248332084952009-01-10T14:56:00.000+00:002009-01-10T14:56:00.000+00:00MichaelThe old covenant was fulfilled by the comin...Michael<BR/><BR/>The old covenant was fulfilled by the coming of Jesus Christ. That is why the veil on the temple was torn down because it signified the beginning of the new covenant for Israel which is the Precious Blood of Jesus. It can no longer be called "unbreakable" in the sense that it is still salvific for them because it is not.<BR/><BR/>"The Jews therefore said: Will he kill himself, because he said: Whither I go, you cannot come? And he said to them: <B>You are from beneath, I am from above. You are of this world, I am not of this world. Therefore I said to you, that you shall die in your sins. For if you believe not that I am he, you shall die in your sin.</B> They said therefore to him: Who art thou? Jesus said to them: <B>The beginning, who also speak unto you.</B>"<BR/><BR/>John 8: 22-24Aduliohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00534730218402742905noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-8248605539241712622009-01-10T14:39:00.000+00:002009-01-10T14:39:00.000+00:00What surprises me, Paul, is that the casualties ar...What surprises me, Paul, is that the casualties are so few in number compared with the intensity of Israeli firepower, and certainly compared with the carnage visited on German cities by Bomber Command.<BR/><BR/>The payload of a squadron of Lancasters was puny compared with that of just one modern combat jet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-1705103738355239842009-01-10T14:35:00.000+00:002009-01-10T14:35:00.000+00:00Karen, you're wrong.To start off with where did yo...Karen, you're wrong.<BR/><BR/>To start off with where did you get the impression that I hate Jews - nowhere did I say that. Opposition to the violence perpetrated by the state of Israel against innocent civilians does not make me an anti-semite. There are plenty of Jews who oppose what Israel is doing. <BR/><BR/>Secondly, we in England know something about terrorism - we suffered plenty of bombings and other attacks by the IRA in the 70s-90s including many that resulted in the deaths of British civilians. How did we respond? We acted with restraint - the only legitimate response. We did not start bombing civilians in West Belfast in 'self defence'; that would have been illegitimate just as Israel's actions are now.<BR/><BR/>In N. Ireland children threw stones at British soldiers - they put up with it. In the Occupied Territories Palestinian children throw stones at Israeli soldiers - the soldiers shoot them. The Israeli's have a choice about how they behave. They can act like a civilised society. Herding Palestinian civilians into a house and then shelling it the following day is not the behaviour of a civilised society.<BR/><BR/>I'm no supporter of Hamas, I actually think their actions are counter-productive for the Palestinian cause, but I do believe in actually looking at what they say rather than what the Western media tells me. And as a matter of fact it was Israel that broke the ceasefire not Hamas as you would discover if you care to look.<BR/><BR/>The Palestinians are human beings with as much right to a decent life as you or I. Have you, Michael or anyone else that backs this have no pity in your heart? Look at what is happening:<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWXyb2YxiVI" REL="nofollow">Norwegian doctor comments on targeting of civilians in Gaza</A>roydosanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16938047251308288033noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-25308810375191814332009-01-10T09:40:00.000+00:002009-01-10T09:40:00.000+00:00gemoftheocean,Even if Israel began the campaign wi...gemoftheocean,<BR/><BR/>Even if Israel began the campaign with the right intentions, the civilian death toll proves that the means have become unjust and grossly out of proportion to the threat posed.Paul Knighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18013703547416529122noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-27648012709398265252009-01-10T06:43:00.000+00:002009-01-10T06:43:00.000+00:00It depends, Paul, what you mean by Christian Zioni...It depends, Paul, what you mean by Christian Zionism. If you mean something that includes dispensationalism and premillennialism, then I think the answer is no.<BR/><BR/>If you mean something that asserts that the Jews have a divine right to the Land of Israel, again no.<BR/><BR/>But if you mean something that involves affirming that God's covenant with Israel is permanent and unbreakable, then PopeJohn Paul II was a Christian Zionist.<BR/><BR/>I don't think it's un-Catholic to affirm that the bond of the Jews with the Land is an ineradicable divine fact.<BR/><BR/>It is even less un-Catholic to affirm that the divine right to the Land of Israel belongs to King David and his lawful Heirs and Successors.<BR/><BR/>If tou want, Paul, to find some outrageous violations of human rights, take a look at Islamic law.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-91846142194021094962009-01-10T04:30:00.000+00:002009-01-10T04:30:00.000+00:00" Paul Knight said... 'Your jumping to a lot of wr..." Paul Knight said... <BR/>'Your jumping to a lot of wrong assumptions about me with this comment, I was merely pointing out that number of deaths on each side is no indicator of who is right and who is wrong, it only indicates who is stronger.'<BR/><BR/>Er, no. What kind of reasoning is that?<BR/><BR/>"<BR/><BR/>Paul, I really don't know why this is so difficult for you. HAve you never seen the neighborhood brat [in this case Hamas] pick a fight with someone, only to be surprised he was the one who recieved the pounding. Now he is caterwauling to mommy [the UN and people who are sorry Hitler didn't finish the job, which sad to say many present day Europeans and others unashamedly assent to.] I'm with Israel. NEVER AGAIN. NEVER AGAIN.gemoftheoceanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05521207668262592414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-36599516235158415762009-01-10T04:16:00.000+00:002009-01-10T04:16:00.000+00:00"So you would justify the killing of over 700 peop..."So you would justify the killing of over 700 people including 200 children as a justified response to the rockets fired by Hamas? "<BR/><BR/><BR/>Roydosan: Darn skippy.<BR/><BR/>Let me know, as VP pointed out, if England gets hit by rockets you'll just sit their sucking your thumbs. Unless you have all turned into complete pansies, I think not.<BR/><BR/>Who brought all this on them? HAMAS. HAMAS started this. You Jew haters amaze me. Why don't you just don a swastika and get it over with?<BR/><BR/>I suggest if you have any influence with Hamas, since you seem to take their terrorist side is to urge them to STOP starting crap with Israel. It's real simple: don't attack Israel, and Israel won't attack you.<BR/><BR/>Yes, it's too bad 200 children got killed, but IT'S ON HAMAS'S HEAD. You don't get to lob rockets into another country just because you are hiding behind the diapers of Palestinian Children. You Hamas supporters are sick people.gemoftheoceanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05521207668262592414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-23256185202401532682009-01-10T01:07:00.000+00:002009-01-10T01:07:00.000+00:00It seems Christian Zionism lives in the Catholic C...It seems Christian Zionism lives in the Catholic Church too. It has the amazing ability to rationalize the most outragous abuses of human rights.Paul Knighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18013703547416529122noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-25476187888260877902009-01-10T01:05:00.000+00:002009-01-10T01:05:00.000+00:00'Your jumping to a lot of wrong assumptions about ...'Your jumping to a lot of wrong assumptions about me with this comment, I was merely pointing out that number of deaths on each side is no indicator of who is right and who is wrong, it only indicates who is stronger.'<BR/><BR/>Er, no. What kind of reasoning is that?Paul Knighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18013703547416529122noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-46552804378401846402009-01-09T20:56:00.000+00:002009-01-09T20:56:00.000+00:00"Thankyou, you've expressed the Christian Zionist ..."Thankyou, you've expressed the Christian Zionist position better than I ever could. But I guess that leads us with nothing to talk about if you consider non-Israeli human lives to worthless."<BR/><BR/>Your jumping to a lot of wrong assumptions about me with this comment, I was merely pointing out that number of deaths on each side is no indicator of who is right and who is wrong, it only indicates who is stronger.Volpius Leoniushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10273209983337706262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-10134711632187806682009-01-09T19:06:00.000+00:002009-01-09T19:06:00.000+00:00Father, you're clearly referring to jus in bello w...Father, you're clearly referring to <I>jus in bello</I> which is governed by international law which the Catholic Church defers to on the whole.<BR/><BR/>Violations of <I>jus in bello</I> generally include intent as an ingredient of crime.<BR/><BR/>But they do not affect <I>jus ad bellum.</I> In their campaign against Nazi Germany the Allies had <I>jus ad bellum</I> throughout, even when Soviet Air Force - in clear violation of <I>jus in bello</I> - fired on the evacuation train transporting my mother from East Prussia.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-61764866240929401712009-01-09T18:49:00.000+00:002009-01-09T18:49:00.000+00:00LP, would you kindly not refer to me as a Christia...LP, would you kindly not refer to me as a Christian Zionist!<BR/><BR/>I can't be pigeonholed in that way.<BR/><BR/>My position is that the Jews have the same right as any other people to aspire to political nationhood, and that Israel has the same right to exist as any other State.<BR/><BR/>Theology comes into it only to affirm that:<BR/><BR/>(1) the Jews will never cease to exist as an identifiable people before God;<BR/><BR/>(2) the Jews will never cease to aspire to live in their ancestral homeland;<BR/><BR/>(3) the sovereignty of Israel is vested by divine right in the Throne of David and in his legitimate Successor;<BR/><BR/>(4) "The glorious Messiah's coming is suspended at every moment of history until his recognition by "all Israel" . . . The "full inclusion" of the Jews in the Messiah's salvation, in the wake of "the full number of the Gentiles", will enable the People of God to achieve "the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ", in which "God may be all in all"(CCC 674)<BR/><BR/>(This of course is a better deal for the Jews than killing as many of them as can't find a Gharqad tree to hide behind).<BR/><BR/>Hamas' campaign, being a religious war, violates goods of the supernatural order, not of the natural order only. That is why "the kill rate is immaterial", for there is by definition no disproportion with respect to civilian deaths which are not directly or indirectly intended.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-83475747408582057962009-01-09T18:46:00.000+00:002009-01-09T18:46:00.000+00:00I think the Catholic Church's teaching about the t...I think the Catholic Church's teaching about the treatment of non-combatants seems to have been flouted horrendously. <BR/>The killing of children, women, the elderly is a serious breach of all that is holy.Fr Ray Blakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05584140126211527252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-10291684752108886322009-01-09T15:15:00.000+00:002009-01-09T15:15:00.000+00:00Michael Petekinstead of brining your propaganda ag...Michael Petek<BR/><BR/>instead of brining your propaganda against islam and muslims as being evil and islam is a false religion thanks to your misinformation and please do some serious research and stop your hateful comments which are nothing but hate<BR/><BR/>first of all , you are accusing hamas and wanting to make us beleive that israel is only defending it slef , for the sake of God dont you really fear the Allmighty?jews were living along side the muslims before the state of israel was declared and history never wrote a muslim genocide against them but since the emigrants came and gave themselves the right to say this is our land God gave it to us a new hollocaust started against the Muslims and chrestians as well perpetuated by the israeli state.<BR/>you really should read some jews point of view against the state of israel, dont think that all jews are pleased with this terrorist state, if hamas blow up them selves to kill israelis believe it or not because they dont have another choice to defend palestinians who are dying like insects because the so called palestinian Gov has spent years trying to negociate peace and they didnt do anything , it served only isreal mahmoud abbas is nothing more then a puppet of israeli state who is feeding you lies and hate againt muslims ( do you think they love chrestians my dear, your turn will come :-))<BR/><BR/>when your own child die besides you with rocket and you see your own mother and family dying that day come and tell us if you gonna go thru peace process.<BR/><BR/>now lets see about the dhimmi, did robert spencer the self appointed muslim scholar fed you with lies?<BR/>if muslims were evil as you like to say they really had to kill the christians and jews instead of keeping them alive and letting them practicing their own religion in freedom, the title dhimmi that sounds to you like an insult and actually it is used by those who loves propaganda to serve their own interest isnt what you really think my dear<BR/>jews and chrestians were obliged to pay taxes on a yearly basis to the state and not all of them mr Michael Petek only those ho were phisically able, orphans and widows , old and disabled people were not obliged to do so at the contrary the state had to look after them and in the same time Muslims payed zakat on a yearly basis as well and bear in mind the amount of zakat was higher than the amount of djizya , but christians and jews were having all protection and freedom of worship.<BR/>dont you pay taxes in your own county and hmmmmmmm you do it on a monthly basis or isnt that true?<BR/><BR/>now coming to this silly lies of yours that islam treated jews as apes and pigs come on Michael Petek would you be kind to show me where in the coran you read this???<BR/><BR/>this is another propaganda against islam here you go, actually it might be some muslims because of the injustice of israel , use this expression and this is not acceptable to misuse what God says but you know I think you would call me all sorts of name when you are angry wont you?<BR/><BR/>the coran states the story of SOME jews who broke the sabat on purpose so GOd punished them and transformed them to apes and pigs not all jews SOME who did mischieve, you know the same thing like jesus ( peace be upon him) called them generation of evil and adulterous will you deny that????<BR/><BR/>finally regarding the end time , bear in mind that those terrorists israelis that you seem love too much , those who are the generation of those who tried to kill jesus christ and killed the prophet as jesus peace be upon him said ( we muslims differ from your belive that jesus was crucified we believe he was risen to the allmighty because he was a holy prophet and he will come back by the end of time to show the truth and what was truly written in the Taura that he is a prophet and he is the MASSAIAH sent to the jews but you know they didnt accept him and they still dont but we muslims we DO and we are waiting for him and we will fight the jews alongside for all their mischieves on land.<BR/>and I specify not All jews are evil or will be killed since many are described in the holy Coran as pious <BR/><BR/>and for your information the coran calls them as well as the chrestians people of the book.<BR/><BR/>so now for the conflict as I am a muslim and a very practicing muslim i tell you we do not see any problem that the jews have their own states but not by exterminating the muslims and the chrestians NO<BR/>and since the state of israel keeps on its terrorism which they call self deffence there will be no peace<BR/>another thing my dear which will not happen of cource in case israel takes over palestine and erase all palestinians (this is what you want i think )<BR/>bear in your mind that all the churches that the muslims allowed when power was under their hand, israel will destroy them because for the jews you are nothing more than pagan, they dont respect neither jesus peace be upon him as we muslims do neither mary as the coran says she is the best and the most chaste woman in all the world , just go and read their holy book the talmud<BR/><BR/>may GOd guide you<BR/><BR/>salam which means peaceamilinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02921886398733665146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-69561269954645267572009-01-09T15:13:00.000+00:002009-01-09T15:13:00.000+00:00"Roll on Israel"?????So you would justify the kill..."Roll on Israel"?????<BR/><BR/>So you would justify the killing of over 700 people including 200 children as a justified response to the rockets fired by Hamas? Yesterday we heard reports of how Palestinian children were found starving next to the bodies of their decomposing mothers whilst Israeli soldiers (who were not under attack at the time) were only yards away. We also heard of how the Israeli Army refused to allow the Red Cross/Crescent to collect around twenty injured Palestinians so that they were forced to take them to hospital on a donkey cart. Not forgetting that the Israelis have killed twenty Palestinian ambulance drivers and also two UN drivers delivering essential supplies in the temporary 'ceasefire'allowed by the IDF. In the name of humanity how can you be so callous and disregarding of human life? I honestly don't know how you or anyone else that justifies this can sleep at night. Israel's actions have been completely indiscriminate and unjustified. <BR/><BR/>I am no supporter of Hamas but they have never called for the killing of all Jews, rather calling for a state that would be for Jews, Muslims and Christians - it is there in all of their official statements if you care to read that rather than what the Western propoganda machine says they believe in.<BR/><BR/>Whether Hamas is evil or not is now frankly completely irrelevant in any case. The 1.5 million people of Gaza do not deserve to be subjected to this brutal collective punishment which will only seek to recruit even more people into Hamas and so be completely counter-productive for Israel.<BR/><BR/>As for 'Jews to the gas chambers' it's more likely to be "Arabs to the gas chambers" - not my words but those of a Jewish settler painted on a Palestinian home in Hebron. If Israel continues with this utter contempt and disregard for Palestinian lives it's where they're headed.roydosanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16938047251308288033noreply@blogger.com