tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post4228510990853584746..comments2023-12-16T16:17:43.886+00:00Comments on Fr Ray Blake's Blog: Giving the Faith BackFr Ray Blakehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05584140126211527252noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-42425203862652719372013-03-04T17:51:12.555+00:002013-03-04T17:51:12.555+00:00If my reluctance to impose simplistic, legalistic,...<i>If my reluctance to impose simplistic, legalistic, rigid and fundamentally unloving solutions on others, especially those not of the Faith, makes me a dissenter unable to make a mature contribution etc., well, so be it. I'll continue to pray for my conversion and ask you to pray for me too.</i><br /><br />Unless you are summoning 12 Swiss Guards to kick in a non-believer's door, abduct him and strap him to a chair and force him to endure round-the-clock catechism class until he converts, I'm not sure how telling someone the truth constitutes imposing or even imposing in an unloving way. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-51040753419752848882013-03-04T16:05:13.454+00:002013-03-04T16:05:13.454+00:00I recognise Jesus as being necessary for Salvation...I recognise Jesus as being necessary for Salvation, I embrace the veracity of Revelation, I accept the reality of the Sacraments and the Sacredness of the necessity of Communion with the Church. (Though I wish sometimes I did not, much as any addict may wish to be free of their addiction, but my need of relationship Christ and His Church, membership of the Mystical Body, is consuming) I recognise that which is right or wrong, and have little time for "Relativism".<br /><br />But my problem is a simple one. A common one. When confronted by a 'wrong', and informed by Holy Mother Church, how does one respond in love of neighbour as Christ commanded?<br /><br />To respond with points of canon law is easy, to quote the Catechism and Encyclicals is a simple task. To cite Sacred Tradition and the Ordinary Magisterium is another easy path to take. But to respond in real, genuine, heartfelt, love in the situations that people find themselves in, situations that are dirty and messy and complicated and chaotic, as Christ would have me do? That is my challenge.<br /><br />If my reluctance to impose simplistic, legalistic, rigid and fundamentally unloving solutions on others, especially those not of the Faith, makes me a dissenter unable to make a mature contribution etc., well, so be it. I'll continue to pray for my conversion and ask you to pray for me too.Greg Collinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13795008618836745837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-88033001690505015002013-03-04T12:16:22.194+00:002013-03-04T12:16:22.194+00:00Graham Greene was persuaded to become a Catholic b...Graham Greene was persuaded to become a Catholic because of his guilt about his sexual proclivitiesnickbrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18412418782531527758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-73807082438357812652013-03-04T11:23:19.758+00:002013-03-04T11:23:19.758+00:00Out of curiosity, is that Archbishop Fulton Sheen ...Out of curiosity, is that Archbishop Fulton Sheen at the blackboard?<br />AHJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12276213667840930253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-55364825453787093202013-03-04T11:08:45.346+00:002013-03-04T11:08:45.346+00:00This comment has been removed by the author.TLMWxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15720022091832839393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-15509865047170430632013-03-04T10:08:05.267+00:002013-03-04T10:08:05.267+00:00Forgot to add I came across this link to the Douay...Forgot to add I came across this link to the Douay Catechsim of 1649 the other day. It puts modern day catechetics in the shade. It just goes to show how after 350 years "progress" can take you backwards not forwards. In terms of catechetics I think the modern day church needs to eat some humble pie and start using the old stuff. Reformation Catholics could knock spots off us. Its embarrasing. Nothing wrong with swallowing your pride.<br /><br />http://www.remnantnewspaper.com/The%20Douay%20Catechism%20of%201649.pdfBJChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07593104081224026799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-50075712398120547412013-03-04T08:49:14.754+00:002013-03-04T08:49:14.754+00:00The garbage press and above all the BBC are having...The garbage press and above all the BBC are having a Field-Day and getting apoplectic about Cardinal O'Brien's public confession,His Eminence has confessed to not being as good as he should have been;well I think that might apply to all of us Catholics,we were brought up to believe that we were better than the others and some of us grew up realizing that we are no different from the heathen<br /><br />We have an in-built guilt complex and continually wonder whether we should actually call ourselves Catholicsnickbrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18412418782531527758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-40894553173961009342013-03-04T08:48:53.659+00:002013-03-04T08:48:53.659+00:00In my view one of the problems with the large Chat...In my view one of the problems with the large Chatechism is that it is very badly laid out from a typographic design point of view. This makes it difficult to navigate through the book and that puts people off engaging with it.<br /><br />It is all very well saying that people have responsibility to make themselves familiar with the church's teaching, but those who are responsible for the teaching have an even bigger responsibility to make sure that they present the material clearly.Physiocrathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13682019625346594568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-52487883975514255432013-03-04T08:44:27.622+00:002013-03-04T08:44:27.622+00:00Usury is the second most important contributory fa...Usury is the second most important contributory factor to the present economic difficulties which have affected most countries - though not apparently Muslim ones where it is banned.<br /><br />This could, with advantage, have been pointed out yet I have never heard, or heard of, a single public utterance on the subject from anyone in an official position in the Catholic church. This is, in its way, as shameful as the recent sexual scandals.<br /><br />Interestingly, the real rate of interest on savings is normally close to zero after allowing for inflation, so there seems to be some kind of a natural law at work which drives interest rates down to zero. This should not be entirely surprising, since the payment of interest requires a constant increase in the quantity of money, which would have the effect of reducing the value of money.Physiocrathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13682019625346594568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-77867242576190778722013-03-04T05:30:44.357+00:002013-03-04T05:30:44.357+00:00I would also like to second the Baltimore Catechis...I would also like to second the Baltimore Catechism...<br /><br />This is not to criticize the current CCC; but in reality, it is not an ideal tool for catechizing the faithful, not directly. The Baltimore Catechism, on the other hand, did have a remarkable knack for instilling the teachings of the Church with real clarity and precision.<br /><br />The Compendium and Youcat seem like steps in recognizing the value of the BC's question-answer format and precision of language, although I'm not sure they quite attain the same level of excellence.<br /><br />It has long since become commonplace to criticize the Baltimore Catechism for reducing catechesis to rote memorization. But a catechism is only a starting point for the faith, not an end. Concepts not fully understood but memorized by a child can and usually do crystallize for that same child at an older age when they have cause to reflect on these matters - like arithmetic tools, it is a tool to the hand which can later be used by a more developed mind.Athelstanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07346012062816580296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-20766625284723152492013-03-04T04:22:45.920+00:002013-03-04T04:22:45.920+00:00Since we, in the post-latin-west, are born into a ...Since we, in the post-latin-west, are born into a fierce anti-christianism (I would call it anti-crucifixism) that has polluted the Church as well, a heresy, which they say 'leads to a pratical atheism', a return to the lodestone Who had been building the Church's magnetic might for 2000 years might help the Church to get over it's multiple personalities (that is the church seems now to be a series of satellites circing various lodestones offered up by the world).<br /><br />"Get out of here now! the Catholic Faith is a gift from Almighty God and I will not have your pollution in it! Get out!" This was the response of Bishop Fulton Sheen to a man who approached him wanting to speak about a 'beautiful' book combing elements of the christian faith with elements of near eastern religion. Did Bishop Fulton Sheen belong to a different Church? They man with the book on extra-ecclesial ecumenism is now too often the pasta - When clergy pollute from the pulpit so nicely, so self-assuredly, that pulpit needs exorcising. Or maybe the people in the pews simply need to realise that whatever a Bishop or Priest says and does IS the CHURCH - who can say?<br /><br /><br /><br />p.s. did anyone see Fr. Morris on the fox news reporting about the Pope leaving the Vatican for Castel Gandolfo? He praised Benedict, expressed some postive hopes for the next Pope then blurted out, 'it's not like everyone needs to become a Catholic.'<br /><br />What would Bishop Sheen say, now?Our Lady of Good Success-pray for us.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14746510579669229511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-45918203915248080592013-03-04T02:47:07.270+00:002013-03-04T02:47:07.270+00:00So, was the Irish grandma a Liberal feminst Euchar...So, was the Irish grandma a Liberal feminst Eucharistic charismatic Associate Pastor?<br /><br /><br />.pablothemexicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01449209305197596461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-25398906928202662372013-03-04T00:15:42.092+00:002013-03-04T00:15:42.092+00:00There was no need to produce the Compendium of the...<i>There was no need to produce the Compendium of the new catechism. The Baltimore Catechism is better full stop.</i><br /><br />I agree. However, there is one thing I like about the Compendium: it explicitly lists usury as forbidden by the 7th commandment. This is important because there is always some chucklehead who argues that the Church changed its teaching on usury, and therefore we can do any nasty thing with our genitalia that we can think of. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-76807797049032788562013-03-03T23:42:11.415+00:002013-03-03T23:42:11.415+00:00The Baltimore Catechism is easily the best cateche...The Baltimore Catechism is easily the best catechetical text I've read. How I could have done with this at school in the 70's. There was no need to produce the Compendium of the new catechism. The Baltimore Catechism is better full stop.<br /><br />Sorry to say but in terms of catechetical material I think this is one area where the SSPX have got things right. If you look at the angelus press website they've got all the old classics from the 50's like the BC, My Catholic Faith, My Way of Life, Frank Sheed etc and I've learnt a heck of a lot from reading them. Thank God (literally) books like this are still being printed.BJChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07593104081224026799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-5460592206709369702013-03-03T23:16:38.785+00:002013-03-03T23:16:38.785+00:00A welcome post. Thank you, Father.A welcome post. Thank you, Father.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-3755964047332304272013-03-03T23:03:11.111+00:002013-03-03T23:03:11.111+00:00Thinker said: That photograph at the head of your ...Thinker said: <i>That photograph at the head of your blog is ridiculous. Reason plays a part and reason means debate, contestation, thought, not slavish following.</i><br /><br />Pope Benedict XVI to the bishops of England and Wales on February 1, 2010:<br /><br /><i>In a social milieu that encourages the expression of a variety of opinions on every question that arises, <b>it is important to recognise dissent for what it is, and not to mistake it for a mature contribution to a balanced and wide-ranging debate.</b> It is the truth revealed through Scripture and Tradition and articulated by the Church’s Magisterium that sets us free.</i>Anita Moorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11305092097247290243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-61486281141886472512013-03-03T22:55:11.935+00:002013-03-03T22:55:11.935+00:00That photograph at the head of your blog is ridicu...<i>That photograph at the head of your blog is ridiculous. Reason plays a part and reason means debate, contestation, thought, not slavish following.</i><br /><br />Let's not play silly bugger. Of course we employ reason and have room for discussion and debate, but there is a limit. Remember that being Catholic is a voluntary association, and if one can't accept those teachings that are binding on the conscience, then personal integrity means either figuring a way to accept them or go somewhere else rather than trying to insist that the Church accommodate my idiosyncratic views. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-90232651026316207062013-03-03T20:48:19.915+00:002013-03-03T20:48:19.915+00:00"Among the nine votes that Cardinal Carlo Mar..."Among the nine votes that Cardinal Carlo Maria Martini, the flagship candidate of the progressive cardinals opposed to the election of Ratzinger, received in the first scrutiny of the conclave of 2005, there were precisely those of O'Brien, Mahony, and Danneels."<br /><br />(extract Sandro Magister's Toward the Conclave)TLMWxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15720022091832839393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-37099297226220791502013-03-03T20:11:04.464+00:002013-03-03T20:11:04.464+00:00That photograph at the top of your posting is ridi...That photograph at the top of your posting is ridiculous. It suggests humans are wholly passive. Reason plays its part, which means rigorous thought, vigorous debate, critical thought, not slavish following.Thinkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12303081806405280816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-67216744154440038122013-03-03T20:08:24.675+00:002013-03-03T20:08:24.675+00:00That photograph at the head of your blog is ridicu...That photograph at the head of your blog is ridiculous. Reason plays a part and reason means debate, contestation, thought, not slavish following.Thinkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12303081806405280816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-77177410554525493552013-03-03T19:32:04.350+00:002013-03-03T19:32:04.350+00:00Anita Moore is totally accurate in naming the Balt...Anita Moore is totally accurate in naming the Baltimore Catechism(in the US) as foundational learning tool.<br />I think if you trace the timeline of when basic catechists started waning, it would be the elimination of the Baltimore Catechism from the learning process.<br />This book could be the simple, straight forward tool Father is talking about.nodjamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15685453024156579633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-59668071310169380772013-03-03T19:22:03.610+00:002013-03-03T19:22:03.610+00:00The Augean Stables must be cleaned, and something ...The Augean Stables must be cleaned, and something has to be done about the deeply unimpressive liturgy and the architectural settings in which it is framed.Physiocrathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13682019625346594568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-64709626899336360902013-03-03T19:00:08.807+00:002013-03-03T19:00:08.807+00:00The Baltimore Catechism can be found online here: ...The Baltimore Catechism can be found online here: http://www.catholicity.com/baltimore-catechism/<br /><br />& the Penny Catechism here: http://www.proecclesia.com/penny%20catechism/Paddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10112119118958158131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-84903011079922332102013-03-03T18:14:15.953+00:002013-03-03T18:14:15.953+00:00Dear Fr,
A magnificent Post and a wonderful "...Dear Fr,<br /><br />A magnificent Post and a wonderful "Call-To-Arms" to our Priests, Bishops and Cardinals.<br /><br />May the Holy Ghost lead the Cardinals in Rome to elect a Pope who will, indeed, oversee the fundamental changes that you mentioned.<br /><br />in Domino.Zephyrinushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01179350648709554049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-58057180583512936902013-03-03T17:13:18.782+00:002013-03-03T17:13:18.782+00:00I think many priests and bishops could do with a d...I think many priests and bishops could do with a dose of the Catholic teaching Mrs. Callaghan gave us in the mid fifties. At 7 years of age we were made very aware that Hell was real and that the Church existed to stop us going there. She would be arrested today for her vivid descriptions of what awaited the wicked, including ourselves if we weren't good. Maybe there wasn't enough said about the depth of Jesus' love for us but that did come later. I shall always be grateful to her and her kind.Lepantohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02487748842744745860noreply@blogger.com