tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post5128697213564299002..comments2023-12-16T16:17:43.886+00:00Comments on Fr Ray Blake's Blog: Religious DecorationsFr Ray Blakehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05584140126211527252noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-38801905719138380532012-03-20T16:56:24.149+00:002012-03-20T16:56:24.149+00:00"...I'm rather appalled by your, yes, big..."...I'm rather appalled by your, yes, bigoted & idiotic comment on Rowan Williams. Dr Williams is a very holy man, who is also one of the most respected, learned, academic theologians today..."<br /><br />'Dumber than a sack of rocks'<br /><br />That is a saying in the Southwest where Cowboys, Vaqueros, and Injuns live.<br /><br />Were this so-called leader truly any of the above, he would strip off all the Priestly garments and fall on his face begging God's forgiveness for being a heretic.<br /><br />People have so little respect for Priests that they are willing to raise any monkey with the price of a cheap suit to alter-Christus status.<br /><br />Pray for the ignorant, but admonish the heretic...<br /><br />*Pablo the Mexicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09384415590309803327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-32875862238352473012012-03-19T14:49:59.430+00:002012-03-19T14:49:59.430+00:00Whatever it is that Dr Williams is wearing, it is ...Whatever it is that Dr Williams is wearing, it is quite clearly surmounted by a crown, and not just any crown, but the official form of the English crown in use since the beginning of the present Queen's reign. So there must be a royal connection somewhere.John Nolanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09027156691859606002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-65681985783167131622012-03-19T01:39:54.527+00:002012-03-19T01:39:54.527+00:00Quite!Quite!Fr Ray Blakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05584140126211527252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-76521361961962440852012-03-19T01:15:00.924+00:002012-03-19T01:15:00.924+00:00Fr Ray: There can be no unity without clarity! The...Fr Ray: There can be no unity without clarity! There can be no unity without truth.Lyndanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-30456079775344289022012-03-18T14:23:35.804+00:002012-03-18T14:23:35.804+00:00JARay - lots of such crosses at St Pauls Bookshop ...JARay - lots of such crosses at St Pauls Bookshop by Westminster Cathedral. (At between £1.55 and £3.25 I think - various designs.) I have taken to wearing one - we need to be seen and must be proud to be seen. No-one has mistaken me for a priest yet! I'll report if they do.Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09492429133293820476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-67853312781252018462012-03-18T12:31:02.688+00:002012-03-18T12:31:02.688+00:00Martin,
Yes, yet another statement by him open to ...Martin,<br />Yes, yet another statement by him open to misinterpretation and ambiguity, his tenure seems to have had many.<br />I am not questioning his sincerity, merely his understanding of what such things mean, again it is about ambiguity.<br />I suppose he might see it as creating a "broad Church", others might understand it as creating confusion, a preference for "unity rather than clarity".Fr Ray Blakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05584140126211527252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-9096384730328551632012-03-18T10:09:26.332+00:002012-03-18T10:09:26.332+00:00Dear Fr Ray
I'm rather appalled by your, yes,...Dear Fr Ray<br /><br />I'm rather appalled by your, yes, bigoted & idiotic comment on Rowan Williams. Dr Williams is a very holy man, who is also one of the most respected, learned, academic theologians today. Dr Williams was referring to the "kool-pop" useage of Christian crosses etc as secular decoration: not demeaning his own or others profound Christian belief in the faith! Yet what do I hear from you? - snide comments about RW not being a real 'bishop'*(a snipe at Anglican orders, no doubt) in addition to questioning Dr William's own sincerity re. wearing his Orthodox icon - no doubt a gift from some eastern prelate (and one far more enlightened than yourself.) *PS. Dr Williams also wears an episcopal ring..given to Michael Ramsey by Pope Paul 6th. <br /><br />'RC' - thankfully, not at your church!Martin Bridgenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-21365737820276398142012-03-18T02:02:18.347+00:002012-03-18T02:02:18.347+00:00I do remember back in the very early days of Vatic...I do remember back in the very early days of Vatican II, that quite a few men took to wearing a tiny cross on the lapels of their jackets. That seems to have gone now ....and the jackets are less too!<br />I used to have one but I cannot find it anywhere!<br />Then priests stopped wearing roman collars and put similar crosses on their jackets (if they wore one) and on their shirt collars if they had no jacket. So these little crosses must still be available somewhere. the only problem might be in being taken for a priest!!!!JARayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18138004129894177863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-52837371985439814122012-03-16T18:13:42.659+00:002012-03-16T18:13:42.659+00:00On a lighter note, Fr. Blake, I think you may find...On a lighter note, Fr. Blake, I think you may find <a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-qft1pKocDwU/T2OCGkoIq8I/AAAAAAAACMI/0Q2N5CIdNJw/s1600/VacancyCanterbury.png" rel="nofollow">this twitter</a> HM_Queen rather interesting. Fortunately when I saw it earlier today I was not drinking milk, because if I had been I'd have snorted an entire cow through my nostrils.gemoftheoceanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05521207668262592414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-73866379897537796202012-03-16T12:47:40.224+00:002012-03-16T12:47:40.224+00:00You've done it now.... Rowan's so upset he...You've done it now.... Rowan's so upset he's resigned... The power of your blog!worcester fragmenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06380648942361640729noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-65556176366783667512012-03-16T09:28:54.535+00:002012-03-16T09:28:54.535+00:00According to Scripture God does not look on the ou...According to Scripture God does not look on the outward appearance. As the old proverb says, Cucullus non facit monachum.laudator temporis actinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-26039363298160101862012-03-16T08:43:33.788+00:002012-03-16T08:43:33.788+00:00Hmmm. I've seen an Orthodox priest wearing a s...Hmmm. I've seen an Orthodox priest wearing a similar "panagia" to Dr Williams' one, but he was wearing a crucifix as well.<br />I've seen the Archbishop of Canterbury's comments:“The cross has become a religious decoration” and that we should resist being involved in "the religion factory". I strongly dislike the pop-culture use / abuse of crucifixes and rosaries by goths and wannabe-Madonnas, but I don't accept his suggestion that even religious folk hang on to their crosses as a substitute for faith. Very insulting.<br />I like to wear a cross, if not a crucifix, everyday; certainly for mass and holy days. Yes I have more than one. Yes some are very beautiful, though not necessarily large or ornate. I even asked a friend to buy me a cross I had seen this year for my birthday, rather than gift vouchers or CDs. Does this mean I've relegated the cross to decoration or mere jewellery? I don't believe so, because it's clearly a "symbol" that I've chosen to wear which says something about who I am and what I have faith in, immediately.<br />I also feel close to God and His protection when I wear a cross; again, I don't believe that the majority of people who feel this kind of protection are substituting it for their faith, or simply being superstitious.Gigihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13592406521067190359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-26874100500134859402012-03-16T00:33:54.940+00:002012-03-16T00:33:54.940+00:00I wear a Saint Benedict Crucifix (3 inch size) on ...I wear a Saint Benedict Crucifix (3 inch size) on the outside of my shirt where ever I go.<br /><br />I wear it for the same reason you do yours, Padre.<br /><br />Sometimes I have to remind American Liberals it is not a decoration.<br /><br />It opens the door to those that want to know more about our Divine Master, and lets those afraid to speak up either out of fear or being thought a fool to ask me questions of the Faith, or tell me of graces the Lord has bestowed.<br /><br />When a Faithful sees a Priest with his crucifix, by the type of crucifix he wears, that soul knows what type of Priest he is standing before.<br /><br />*Pablo the Mexicanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09384415590309803327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-59937494864559574542012-03-16T00:27:05.201+00:002012-03-16T00:27:05.201+00:00Of course, employees have a right to wear unobstru...Of course, employees have a right to wear unobstrusive crucifixes while at work. And just because Dr William's cross may be for him a decoration, doesn't mean the crucifix isn't a holy object in itself and worn as such by people of faith.Lyndanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-17156699375073460072012-03-15T23:59:36.992+00:002012-03-15T23:59:36.992+00:00@Patricius
You do know the churches preserved by ...@Patricius<br /><br />You do know the churches preserved by the Church of England are in fact by and large our (Catholic) churches?Pétrushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17539025631125425710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-73235185223560280292012-03-15T22:56:11.580+00:002012-03-15T22:56:11.580+00:00The big difference is that our separated brethren ...The big difference is that our separated brethren wear crosses - we wear Crucifixes which are Sacramentals .<br />Pax et bonum , from Our Lady`s Land of the Southern Cross .TRAD DADnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-59732924753329357012012-03-15T21:49:47.980+00:002012-03-15T21:49:47.980+00:00Father
In our society that is increasingly hostile...Father<br />In our society that is increasingly hostile to Christianity do we not have a duty to proclaim the faith by actions such as wearing a cross: CCC2471 and the following paragraphs?<br />It seems to me that in stating that there is no right to wear a cross there is only a short step to saying that one is forbidden to wear a cross. No "right" is breached and offence to Dawkins and friends is avoided.<br />So I wonder if bearing witness might not now require us to wear a cross.<br />Now if the Bishops required us to wear a cross on Fridays that would be interesting.Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09036933832060349206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-44778194820328455432012-03-15T21:29:58.560+00:002012-03-15T21:29:58.560+00:00It's funny what you say about iconoclasm and a...It's funny what you say about iconoclasm and aversion to icons/images, father, because the Church of England, by law established, seems to have, by some art, preserved their churches in the last 45 years where the Romans have not.Patrick Sheridanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07995907911415177074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-21975132725569531292012-03-15T20:45:53.017+00:002012-03-15T20:45:53.017+00:00Bosnian Croat women, who are of course Roman Catho...Bosnian Croat women, who are of course Roman Catholic, traditionally tattooed crosses on themselves too, for much the same reasons as the Copts. Indeed, there are still old women alive who bear such tattoos.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com