tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post5563501550143847369..comments2023-12-16T16:17:43.886+00:00Comments on Fr Ray Blake's Blog: Liberal DepressionFr Ray Blakehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05584140126211527252noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-61341477391579088042009-02-03T12:10:00.000+00:002009-02-03T12:10:00.000+00:00Gem - in case you haven't noticed, Paul VI lifted ...Gem - in case you haven't noticed, Paul VI lifted the excommunications on the Orthodox in 1964. Since then, the Orthodox have not once, JUST ONCE, ever apologised for the schism in 1054.<BR/><BR/>And for the all the supposed wonderful ecumenism of JP II, the Orthodox never made any concessions at all to the Catholic church.<BR/><BR/>Now if this can be tolerated within Vatican circles, I can hardly see what the problem is with the SSPX being extended a welcome hand and not being made to abandon theological opinions that were ONCE the opinion of the church!Aduliohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00534730218402742905noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-59315631335489777622009-02-03T02:33:00.000+00:002009-02-03T02:33:00.000+00:00Hestor, you really are clueless about my movtives ...Hestor, you really are clueless about my movtives for posting what I did. I want the Latin Mass to be seen as something NORMAL. Not belonging to the nutters who've decided they can make their own rules and not apologize for it.gemoftheoceanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05521207668262592414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-81788964317372011192009-02-02T20:31:00.000+00:002009-02-02T20:31:00.000+00:00The SSPX's have already been punished for over 20 ...The SSPX's have already been punished for over 20 years I hardly call that getting away scot free, we don't even lock people up for murder in the UK for that long.<BR/><BR/>Having spoken to several people who want to go to TLM but have none in their area I have found they are eagerly looking forward to the day when they can in good conscience attend the local SSPX Mass.<BR/><BR/>Truth is there are actual heretics in the Church who really have been completely getting away with it scot free for years, while the SSPX as far as I can tell are completely orthodox in matters pertaining to Faith and Morals, their only crime been disobedience in matters of discipline. <BR/><BR/>Keeping them excommunicated any longer is not going to make them more to obedient, on the contrary lifting the excommunications is appearing to be having that effect going by the letters written by the SSPX recently.<BR/><BR/>Some seem to be forgetting that Excommunications are not a punishment but a remedial measure. <BR/><BR/>In this case it was disobedience in disciplinary matters that needed correction, lifting the excommunication will do more to correct this than maintaining the excommunication would have done in my opinion.Volpius Leoniushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10273209983337706262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-11380819439068810882009-02-01T20:02:00.000+00:002009-02-01T20:02:00.000+00:00Gem - you really are scared of this reconciliation...Gem - you really are scared of this reconciliation aren't you? Your increased howling on Fr. Rays blog could be lifted verbatim and could easily be attributed to Frs. Charles Curran or Richard McBrien or Sr. Chitterser.<BR/><BR/>I really hope you're not losing sleep over this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-75153469399221140092009-02-01T14:34:00.000+00:002009-02-01T14:34:00.000+00:00"invented nonsense!" Mickens is both rude and disl..."invented nonsense!" Mickens is both rude and disloyal - and there will be much more where that comes from.the owl of the removehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00997766157711823147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-72015976164146959732009-02-01T10:20:00.000+00:002009-02-01T10:20:00.000+00:00That sort of argument could also be applied to Vat...That sort of argument could also be applied to Vatican I. Newman thought it was an unnecessary Council.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-27862450682641996912009-02-01T08:46:00.000+00:002009-02-01T08:46:00.000+00:00Gem - absolutely agree with you.Gem - absolutely agree with you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-49435762872621505922009-02-01T08:08:00.000+00:002009-02-01T08:08:00.000+00:00Have to say I agree. THe SSPXers will get away sc...Have to say I agree. THe SSPXers will get away scot free, And this LESSENS the chance of the Latin Mass becomming more acccepted without all the BS the sspxers brought about and continue to get away with. They have been too smug and too arrogant for too long. The pope gains NOTHING by doing this. NOTHING, and he loses in the bargain and comes off like a weakling by kow-towing to them.gemoftheoceanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05521207668262592414noreply@blogger.com