tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post8067758023167379721..comments2023-12-16T16:17:43.886+00:00Comments on Fr Ray Blake's Blog: Year of MercyFr Ray Blakehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05584140126211527252noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-23196378704901826602015-11-11T11:42:19.349+00:002015-11-11T11:42:19.349+00:00"These have come so that the proven genuinene..."These have come so that the proven genuineness of your faith—of greater worth than gold, which perishes even though refined by fire—may result in praise, glory and honor when Jesus Christ is revealed." Peter 1:7 - Christian charity is different than just charity, as "refined by fire" as that charity may be.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-32661472743320178882015-11-11T11:30:41.083+00:002015-11-11T11:30:41.083+00:00So point on! The singularity of Christianity is Je...So point on! The singularity of Christianity is Jesus Christ's persona, embodied God and Holy Spirit. It's a unique religion and Christians being embarrassed with the particularities of their religion, excusing themselves over and over again on the internet that "Christianity is not a religion..." or playing dumb when asked about the Holy Trinity, brings me to real tears. Why is it so shameful to just believe these things in a world where some people want to worship satan for success is considered okay.<br />Since I am not Catholic, but Orthodox, I don't know the exact times when overcoming Christ was expressed at the Synod, but I think that despite his oddities Pope Francis did mention this aspect, or Christ's persona, several times.<br />To many it may look as if Christians we buy people to convert, if mercy and charity is linked to Jesus Christ. But this aspect cannot be proven until cases of charity should occur for Christians only. If a Christian gives to a non-Christian and talks of Jesus, just the act of giving without asking anything back proves that it is not a deal, it's not buying someone off.<br />I'm not a scholar so I may be off course, definitely not a Catholic one, but I just want to end with Scripture and tell me Father if I'm wrong:<br />" 7 These have come so that the proven genuineness of your faith—of greater worth than gold, which perishes even though refined by fire — may result in praise, glory and honor when Jesus Christ is revealed." Peter 1-7 - charity in itself does not equal Christian charity which done in Jesus Christ gives more than just gold.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-36336752546720203732015-11-11T03:55:39.753+00:002015-11-11T03:55:39.753+00:00@Anita. Unfortunately 'traditioninaction' ...@Anita. Unfortunately 'traditioninaction' are fully-fledged-communal-Novus-Ordites, so yes, they are schismatics. Our Lady of Good Success-pray for us.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14746510579669229511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-81828250464743997462015-11-08T15:30:28.435+00:002015-11-08T15:30:28.435+00:00Sandro Magister at Chiesa refers to an article by ...Sandro Magister at Chiesa refers to an article by Father Spadaro S.J. in Civilita. Sandro claims that this article would not have been published without the approval of Pope Francis and therefore it is an indication of the Pope's thinking. Another kite?<br /><br />Sandro quotes verbatim the final passage of this article and entitles it:<br /><br />"An open door to communion for the divorced and remarried."<br /><br /> which is Sandro's title and not one that appears in the original article. A bit naughty?<br /><br />However he correctly reproduces one paragraph where the English translation reads as follows:<br /><br />'The "Relatio synodi" incorporates the overall criterion expressed by St John Paul II in "Familiaris Consortio": "discerning the situation well". There is in fact a difference "between those who have made sincere efforts to save the first marriage and have been completely unjustly abandoned, and those who by their own grave fault have destroyed a canonically valid marriage" (no.85). But there are also those who have contracted a second union in view of raising children, and are subjectively certain in conscience that the previous marriage, destroyed beyond repair, had never been valid (cf. no 84)'<br /><br />Now if you refer to clause 84 of the Relatio Synodi there is no mention of people who subjectively believe that the previous marriage was never valid but merely to the divorced and remarried in general.<br /><br />There is then mention of the 'internal forum' in Spadoro's article. Now certainly in the 1970s there was the idea current that those who sincerely believed that their first marriage was invalid and either had not yet got an annulment or had difficulty in getting one through lack of evidence etc could take communion. Now did Familiaris Consortio do away with this idea about the internal forum? Perhaps some learned reader of this blog could comment.<br /><br />However, if this article does represent the thinking of the Pope, is the situation that we are only talking about those who sincerely believe with good reason that there first marriage was invalid? In which case this whole business of discernment ending in communion for the divorced and remarried is only going to apply to a very small subset of such who have this sincere belief. <br /><br />The problem is that it is only on careful reading of this article that one spots this restriction which does not appear in the Relatio. It is an extremely long article and waffles on interminably so that this point is probably going to be lost in ambiguity and confusion. Is the Pope going to limit this process to what must be a relatively small group?<br /><br /><br /><br />Nicolas Bellordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08063019108964247676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-75920091000751800172015-11-07T17:20:37.043+00:002015-11-07T17:20:37.043+00:00viterbo said...
What strange 'Catholic...viterbo said...<br /><br /> What strange 'Catholic' times we live in. THE YEAR OF MERCY. No...limbo has not been dogmatically defined, but has a longstanding tradition that it should have been a shock to all Catholics, when Ratzinger said we were too 'modern' for such traditions. Apparently we are too 'modern' for Aquinas as well, according to the same.<br /><br /> http://www.traditioninaction.org/religious/e012rp_Limbo24Reasons.html<br /><br />Is Tradition in Action a schismatic site?Anita Moorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11305092097247290243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-54710786952739174262015-11-07T15:05:02.097+00:002015-11-07T15:05:02.097+00:00Viterbo, I agree: " what strange Catholic tim...Viterbo, I agree: " what strange Catholic times we live in" <br /><br />http://abyssum.org/2015/11/07/the-jesuits-now-speak-with-one-voice/<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-42504252660006844172015-11-07T10:34:20.403+00:002015-11-07T10:34:20.403+00:00What strange 'Catholic' times we live in. ...What strange 'Catholic' times we live in. THE YEAR OF MERCY. No...limbo has not been dogmatically defined, but has a longstanding tradition that it should have been a shock to all Catholics, when Ratzinger said we were too 'modern' for such traditions. Apparently we are too 'modern' for Aquinas as well, according to the same.<br /><br />http://www.traditioninaction.org/religious/e012rp_Limbo24Reasons.htmlOur Lady of Good Success-pray for us.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14746510579669229511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-88557820190703874532015-11-06T23:51:56.386+00:002015-11-06T23:51:56.386+00:00Maybe, as suggested here in this article, things b...Maybe, as suggested here in this article, things become 'antichrists' (if that's not too strong a word) as soon as they separate from Christ eg. if we really believe in Christ, then honesty compels us to think homosexual behaviour wrong, but a non-christian may be honestly appalled at the 'repression' by law once suffered for this behaviour and feel sympathy, so this would be honesty making us antichrist. Maybe the root of error is that we go into error about things as soon as we forget their context in Christ, an alternative to ignorance as the root of error as in scholasticism, unless we say ignorance of Christ is the root of error.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Stephen Turtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13100264523989763780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-40234544030773275732015-11-06T19:06:31.151+00:002015-11-06T19:06:31.151+00:00What did Jesus say about His Divine Mercy? To find...What did Jesus say about His Divine Mercy? To find out read St Faustina Marie's diary and here and there He makes it plain who He is and who the Father is. Remember she was on the Index at one time.<br />Some theologian said as they did about Teresa Higginson Jesus does not want another devotion He is all that is needed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-57671241108384074002015-11-06T17:24:12.581+00:002015-11-06T17:24:12.581+00:00I call that style of sacred art "fake primiti...I call that style of sacred art "fake primitive". That we produce just little of beauty in the Church today is a sure sign of our spiritual sickness.James Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08371965892643323953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-57105263806368024062015-11-06T15:27:07.731+00:002015-11-06T15:27:07.731+00:00Wonderful words, fostering true Christian unity, a...Wonderful words, fostering true Christian unity, and also very courageous in the current context.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01239619550824689228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-54127772218745624342015-11-06T15:00:40.629+00:002015-11-06T15:00:40.629+00:00I think the idea of their being righteous women an...I think the idea of their being righteous women and men outside of the Church who are very pleasing to God and will share eternity with him through his direct intervention is compatible with our faith. <br /><br />The problem is that Catholicism, interpreting scripture, has always taught that men are fallen, and that living righteously is a very daunting task. Christianity represents an incredible act of mercy whereby those who are unworthy are made worthy through God's terrible and supreme Sacrifice. This "backdoor" into the Kingdom is the normal means for poor slobs like us to attain what is naturally attainable for very, very few.<br /><br />In other words, if the standard for salvation outside the Church is "seek[ing] God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try[ing] in [one's] actions to do his will as [one] know it through the dictates of [one's] conscience," that is still a VERY DIFFICULT standard. Rahner uses the example of a Bhuddist monk! Is anyone really confident that they have met that standard themselves? <br /><br />In reality, as Fr. Blake states, we have "developed" the idea of anonymous Christianity to do a lot more work than it can realistically do within the normal confines of traditional Catholic theology. Why? Because salvation through Jesus is a slap in the face of pluralistic democracy, which we are committed to as a society as a given. To imply that some have the "Words of Eternal Life," while some do not is, frankly, embarrassing to modern sensibilities and uncouth.<br /><br />The fact is, that Christianity is a hard word, but that God is forgiving and merciful. We must hope in that mercy!Cosmoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14199946824127025416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-19246533593451853412015-11-06T14:18:24.482+00:002015-11-06T14:18:24.482+00:00I think σπερματικός λόγος would apply to the Sybil...I think σπερματικός λόγος would apply to the Sybil too, and to those pagans who pointed directly to Christ, I suspect it was rhetorical device - would Justin have taken on a Rahnerian stance - doubt itFr Ray Blakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05584140126211527252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-31069882.post-59944892129764071282015-11-06T14:04:45.416+00:002015-11-06T14:04:45.416+00:00The term 'anonymous Christian' is a twenti...The term 'anonymous Christian' is a twentieth century one, of course, but the concept is not foreign to the Church. St Justin Martyr (died c165 ad) taught something similar with his idea of the 'logos spermatikos', which led him to say that even Plato was a sort of Christian.Pastor in Montehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05949810648656544072noreply@blogger.com