Tuesday, July 27, 2010

I am having dinner with Bishop Athansius Schneider

I am having dinner with Bishop Athansius Schneider who is coming to the Latin Mass Society's course at Downside
LMS Press release:
LMS Residential Training Conference for Priests Wishing to Learn the Extraordinary Form of the Roman Rite (Traditional Latin Mass) at Downside Abbey, Somerset.
Bishop Athanasius Schneider to attend Conference

The Latin Mass Society has announced that Bishop Athanasius Schneider ORC, Auxiliary Bishop of Karaganga in Kazakhstan, will be attending the forthcoming priests’ training conference to be held at Downside Abbey from Tuesday 10th to Friday 13th August. Bishop Schneider will celebrate a Solemn Pontifical Mass in the Extraordinary Form in the Abbey Church at Downside on Thursday 12th August at 11.00am. He will also deliver a lecture as part of the conference.

Around 30 priests are expected to attend the conference where tuition will be given in the celebration of Mass in the older form. Some will be beginners, and will be studying Low Mass; whilst others with more experience will be expanding their skills to include Missa Cantata and Missa Solemnis. Tuition will also be provided for altar servers.

Bishop Schneider is best known for his defence of the traditional practice of receiving Holy Communion on the tongue and kneeling. His book, Dominus Est, originally written in Italian but now available in English, deals with this subject in some detail.

The public will be able to attend the 11.00 am Mass in the Abbey Church each day of the conference, but will be particularly welcome at the Pontifical Mass on the Thursday.

There are a few last minute places available at the Downside conference. Priests and potential servers interested in attending should contact the Latin Mass Society by telephoning 020 7404 7284 for further information and an application form.


Physiocrat said...

They don't distribute communion in the hand in Latvia. Time it was stopped. What is the justification for it other than to diminish a sense of respect?

I heard a sad story about a teenager who did not like the way the priest looked suspiciously at him when he had the host in his hand. In the end he stopped going to communion. Now he has lost his faith. Obviously not the only reason but nevertheless it was a first step. Hopefully he will get it back again some time but this should not be happening.

gemoftheocean said...

Phisiocrat - do be a bit careful and realize that in the western church for the 1st thousand years or so Communion was distributed in the hand.

Mark said...

Father: He's a lovely man, whom I've had the honour of meeting. You'll enjoy talking to him.

Physiocrat: I could reverse the story and it would still be plausible.

Jacobi said...

Father, please ask the bishop to continue his good work.

Reception kneeling and on the tongue is an but an outward sign of our belief that what we are receiving is Jesus Christ Himself.

It took a thousand years for our predecessors to grasp this fully.

Modernist reformers know that the surest way of reversing this understanding is to revert to treating it as a piece of bread and taking it by hand.

Physiocrat said...

Physiocrat - do be a bit careful and realize that in the western church for the 1st thousand years or so Communion was distributed in the hand.

Perhaps there was a good reason why they stopped after that.

Martin123 said...

A holy bishop indeed. His book, Dominus Est! It is the Lord, is well worth a read. Give a few to priests you know as well!

Alexander Jenkins said...

In response to your first comment Physiocrat, how one recieves communion is entirely up to one's opinion as long as they uphold the Host's dignity and respect. It is trivialising the mass if we become obsessed with how you should recieve communion - do you think Jesus would discrimate against people who recieved communion from the tongue and those from the hand?

This teenager has every right to be angry when a priest interveres by enforcing his own opinion on how he should recieve communion - the priest is a human too and his opinions are equal to everyone else's.

When one becomes obsessed with how a Mass should be performed (i.e. the liturgy) one loses the meaning - Jesus. You are focusing too much on the means to the end but not the end in itself.

Kneeling Catholic said...


Are you still at it??

If hand Communion were widespread until 1000 AD "or so", then why don't any of the Orthodox who split with us around that time, practice Hand Communion?

Why do none, absolutely none of the Apostolic groups, like the Nestorians, Armenians, or Copts who split with us since 400 AD or so, practice Hand Communion?

Do you know of any group which split off from us, except for the 16th CTY reformers, which practice Hand Communion?


young_catholic said...

Father, what exactly is a "Solemn Pontifical Mass"?

Fr Ray Blake said...

Solemn Pontifical Mass = High Mass with a Bishop and other Sacred Ministers.
Pontif here meaning meaning bishop.

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