Monday, June 21, 2010

Cracked Tory Peer Claims Catholic Schools Teach Ghandi in Hell

Conservative Lord Lucas - is that of Chilworth or of Crudwell? - claim "some" Catholic school teach Ghandi roasting in hell.
 From Lords Hansard, Academies Bill Debate, 7 June, Column 562
Although I am not religious myself, I would happily send my children to faith schools. However, if we pay for them as state schools, they should be open to all. We should not see in the bill a rowing back from the commitment to include the wider community in faith schools that we have extracted from the churches to date. Nor should we see an increase in sectarian teaching. There are Catholic schools that teach that Gandhi is burning in Hell. Frankly, I do not think that we should fund that on the state.

12 comments:

Volpius Leonius said...

Yet another muppet that doesn't understand that some of the "we" he is talking about are Catholics and that Catholics pay taxes just like everyone else.

Mike said...

It is Crudwell. If you want to read the whole speech it is at:

http://www.theyworkforyou.com/lords/?gid=2010-06-07a.560.0

Sirian said...

Traditional Tory anti-Catholicism shining through again...

terry said...

Unfortunately he also gets a generous attendance allowance and other expenses to spout such rubbish. He also has a vote in the passing of legislation.

One wonders whether in these times of austerity, whether the Government would consider whether such expenditures are well spent.

And whether in a time of public expenditure cuts, perhaps this could be a small contribution to the public expenditure cuts planned

Laurence England said...

Is there really a Catholic school that believes in Hell, Purgatory and Heaven?

Sharon said...

By saying "some Catholic schools..." all Catholic schools are maligned. If what the peer said is true let him name the Catholic schools.

Just another mad Catholic said...

Not only should the state fund Cathlolic schools but it should recognize the truth of the Catholic religion, enshrine such recognition in law giving the Catholic religion privilages and issue an edict stating that all other religions are merely to be tolerated. btw they can force the anglicans to hand over all the buildings they stole

Furthermore the State must do everything within its power to protect the Church and to make sure that civil law conforms to Divine Law e.g. only essential staff such as fireman and nurses allowed to work on Sundays.

nickbris said...

Personally I'd put the whole lot of them to the Guillotine.

Mike said...

Going by the views that David Cameron has expressed on certain issues it is highly likely that more and more Tory peers will conform to the Lucas type rather than the Waddington type. I fear that in future it will be less likely that the Lords will come to the rescue of the Christian religion.

Dymphna said...

Well, considering how he treated his wife and children.....

Independent said...

Obviously the peer is unaware that well before the state did anything for the education of the ordinary people the Church of England and the Catholic Church were building schools and recruitng teachers. By the time the 1870 Act was passed there was a network of schools throughout England and the state merely plugged the gaps. A tremendous amount of private money financed English education.

It is not up to the johhnycomelately state to dictate what religious schools should teach or whom they should admit. We live in a pluralist society not a secular one and secularism should merely have the same rights as any other belief system.

Secularism cannot expect special privileges enshrined in law, nor, as a matter of practical politics, can any other body of belief.

Sue Sims said...

Laurence: my reaction entirely. A Catholic school so much as mentioning Hell would be a rara avis indeed these days.