If you want to see an example of a member of the Labour Party's rabid prejudice against the Catholic Church, then look at this
little piece of effluent that has has just floated down the Thames from the pen of Martin Salter, Member of Parliament for Reading West.
Well done Mr Salter it is worthy of Der Stürmer, it betrays all the prejudice that many Labour voting Catholics believe is the preserve of the BNP. Thank you for revealing it is firmly ensconced in New Labour.
Can this man ever really represent Catholics?
25 comments:
What a toilet-mouthed bigot.
Labour OUT!
Why was Damian Thompson even praising him as a great constituency MP?
Fr. Ray,
Let's not forget: a very large number of New Labourites are the old loony left Marxists who ran Lambeth, Haringey and other rotten boroughs in the 1980s, and then shaved off their beards and put on Austin Reed suits in order to get elected as MPs in 1997 when Tony Blair swept to power.
A leopard doesn't change its spots, and these people haven't lost their aversion to organized religion, especially Catholicism, in the intervening years. No-one should be surprised by utterances like this.
[The former Trotskyists, on the other hand, are now all people of unimpeachable integrity and moral fibre] :-)
Far too often we kid ourselves that people even if they disagree with us,respect us,sadly this is not the case.The views of this man however obnoxious are sadly shared by many.It shows how important it is that not only the Bishops but all Christians take seriously the task to proclaim the Gospel in and out of season.
This is nothing like "Der Sturmer" which was frankly pornographic, but it does appear to be full of ill informed criticisms. Nor is it particularly Marxist - Marx was against all religion but remarked on one occasion that he could forgive Christianity a lot since it enjoined kindness to children.
However it does show the faulty logic, disdain for collective rights, and even malice of a would be intellectual-he attended the University of Sussex but did not graduate. He has held his seat since 1997 and has a less than 5000 majority and wisely does not intend to contest the next general election. I doubt if he would have said what he did if he were to be a candidate in May. Dr Thompson praised him because his record on the subject of MPs expenses is completely clean.
It is not just Catholicism that they hate it is all Western religion, they are strangely ambivalent about Islam, but the Pope as the spiritual head of Christendom is therefore a prime target.
There are many excellent comments under this M. P's obnoxious blog. These culminated early in the morning by perhaps the most eloquent of all by none other than a certain Laurence England (does he never sleep?!).
A lady at 10.05 was so impressed with what he wrote that she suggests Laurence should stand as an Independant candidate at the next election. There must be many like myself who feel they can no longer vote for a party which has sunk so low and would welcome the opportunity to support him.
Love your enemies. Do good to those that hate you.
Christianity is "foolishness to the world" - it can never be otherwise. So why are we surprised when the world fails to "respect" us? Why should it respect us in any case when we show no respect ourselves to those the Lord commanded us especially to "love" (I'm thinking here of some of the comments on the Telegraph blog post)?
Let's not forget: the greatest engine of atheism in the modern world is not Marxism or Darwinism, but the stupidity of Christians and their inveterate refusal to be Christ-like.
Ian Paisley was considered an excellent MP when he sat in Westminster by his Catholic constituents.
Who knows perhaps Catholics in Reading regard Mr. Salter with the same high regard?
OK - so where are the model Catholics Tony and Cherie in all of this. Tony who was the architect of Nu-Labour surely must take much of the credit for his party's new found PC bravado. But doesn't any of this conflict with his new found Faith???? And Cherie? Oh... too busy attending lunch dates with Marie Stopes and blowing up condoms!
And what about HRH Prince Charles and his Catholic Bride 'Queen' Camilla. Where are their voices in opposition to Nu-Labour's 'Barmy Bills' that are an all-out attack on the only voice of reason on this planet, the voice of Truth proclaimed by the Catholic and Apostolic Church as left to us by our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. The silence is deafening!
Not content with just being the 'Defender of the Faith', Charles awarded himself that title - remember 2007 or 2008.... 'Defender of Faith'. No doubt that 'all-inclusive' pompous title excludes the Catholic Faith.
Why am I not surprised????
Good to ponder on these words:
John 15:20-30
20 Remember the word that I said to you, `A servant is not greater than his master.' If they persecuted me, they will persecute you; if they kept my word, they will keep yours also.
21 But all this they will do to you on my account, because they do not know him who sent me.
22 If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not have sin; but now they have no excuse for their sin.
23 He who hates me hates my Father also.
24 If I had not done among them the works which no one else did, they would not have sin; but now they have seen and hated both me and my Father.
25 It is to fulfil the word that is written in their law, `They hated me without a cause.'
26 But when the Counselor comes, whom I shall send to you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father, he will bear witness to me;
27 and you also are witnesses, because you have been with me from the beginning.
God Bless.
Martin Salter thinks he is a god, answering to no one and serving no one but himself. His prideful, clouded and fallible judgment is being placed above the infallible and supreme authority of God and the Catholic Church.
He accepts that everyone should live a selfish narrow minded existence with ME in the centre (as no doubt he does). Life should be about Me and what I want will make ME happy. Decisions made by others must not make any requirements on ME, or place any restrictions on ME, or else I will disregard them, denounce them and demand change.
In his opinion if God does exist, then He should want man to be happy.
He would no doubt argue (assuming he believes in God) that it is not God making all these moral demands, it’s man-made religion. And such a religion does not place the emphasis on ME.
All the effort that Salter puts into attacking our Catholic Church could be better put to use researching more about the faith. Maybe one day he would then convert - St Paul did!!!.
I bet that Mr Salter would not describe any Ayatollah or ruler of an Arab Kingdom as "a bloke in a dress". It is hoped that at the General Election this piece of polemic by one who will still be at that time Vice-Chairman of the Labour Party will be given the widest possible publicity.
"So, Mr England, what are your policies?"
"Well I'm standing on a platform for the repatriation of heretics to wherever they came from."
"That's quite a task. How do you intend on doing that?"
"By burning them."
"Laurence England, thank you for your time."
I'm joking of course...but you know what they say about power ;-)
I have never heard of this Martin Salter before now, but what a very rude and ignornat man he seems to be. He uses the lowest common denominator by referring to the Pope as a man 'in a dress'. How low can you really go? Is he supposed to be an 'itelligent parliamentarian'? Please. I'm sure being a good Labour MP he might not be so quick to refer to leaders of other religions in such a way, least he incur the wrath of the 'multi-cultural' mob. Oh, and his reference to Northern Ireland as an example to prove his cause is pathetic, and shows a complete lack of understanding of what went on there. What the likes of this man want is not a pluralistic society but a secular one where religions, or for the most part, Christianity has no part to play.
Martin Salter used to be a Reading Councillor before becoming an MP. If anything he has moderated his spleen and his invective since those days; and no-one could ever have described him as an intellectual giant.
He was one of the 1997 Candidates elected in seats previously held by the Conservatives by virtue of the large immigrant communities in those constituencies, who always used to believe that 'you have to vote Labour; they're the only ones who'll look after you'.
However, those immigrant communities have learnt better by now, and know that the Labour party is interested only in their votes, not in their lives : which is just one reason why we shan't have a Labour Government after the next election.
One wonders what Martin Salter will do one he's no longer an MP ? Possibly seek a job cleaning the windows of S. James', Reading ? Maybe that's why he is supporting the Equality Bill - so that his anti-Catholicism can't be held against him.
All organisations get infiltrated by Half-Wits & deviants,we all have to remain alert.
This particularly ill individual should be pitied.
You could bet your house that he didn,t resign.
On the 25th January a certain Member of Parliament gave a short speech talking about extremist parties pedalling messages of racial hatred and intolerance. He said 'It is good to remind people of the consequences of this doctrine of poison.... By now we should have learnt how to get along with one another irrespective of race or religion.'
This was Mr Martin Salter Member for Reading West.
CAN YOU POSSIBLY IMAGINE THE UPROAR AND 'CRUCIFIXION' BY THE MEDIA HAD MR SALTER SMUGLY REFERRED TO A TRANSGENDERED CROSS DRESSER AS A 'MAN IN A DRESS'.
SURELY THIS REMARK MUST RANK AS SOME SORT OF 'HATE CRIME' - WHAT'S GOOD FOR THE GOOSE ETC... OR IS IT THOSE TWISTED DOUBLE STANDARDS REARING THEIR UGLY HEADS AGAIN.
HIS REFERENCE TO OUR HOLY FATHER IN THIS WAY IS CONTEMPTIBLE.
I notice that two or three comments criticize the MP's term of 'man in a dress'.
The word 'dress' could possibly have been used by the MP because he was totally ignorant of either the word 'cassock' or 'vestments.' Few people outside the Church seem to know the most basic of ecclesiastical terms now. I recently read an online report from an American newspaper of the funeral of the Archbishop of Haiti. The journalist wrote that the Bishops present wore white and gold hats!
No, the MP actually referred to the Pope as a 'BLOKE in a dress' and it was the word 'bloke' I strongly objected to. Ignorance can excuse the word 'dress' (although perhaps 'robe' would have been more dignified) but to use the word 'bloke' showed his contempt for the Holy Father. The whole article was shameful.
Independent: What are
"group rights" expect special privilege you get just because you belong to a particular group!
Feh.
I'm *special* and deserve more rights than you because I belong to X, Y, Z group. Try again. INDIVIDUAL rights are something to believe in -- not "group."
If you are talking about the right of free people to independently form into groups and determine their own membership, then that's something I approve of.
In other words, the NAACP should have to take in KKK members. Nor, should the KKK have to take in NAACP members for that matter.
It is clear now that that the visit of the Holy Father will be the occasion for a major assault by a "grand coalition" of humanist, atheist, feminist, pro-choice and gay-rights organisations. They are articulate, well prepared and have many sympathisers in the media, as is obvious from some of the recent programmes and articles.
I suspect they see Christianity and in particular the Catholic Church as the final obstacle in their way. Even their qualified support for Islam is but a means of diminishing Christianity.
We had better be ready!
I believe the Catholic Union is already seeking qualified, articulate and persuasive speakers.
But the lead must come from the Hierarchy - all of them - and be backed up by every caring Catholic who can speak out, or put pen to paper
G of the Ocean - by collective rights I mean such as are given to a trades union in England. I mentioned them as presumably Mr Salter would believe in them and should extend them to churches and other bodies formed by the free asociation of individuals.
It should be noted that Mr Salter is not some unrepresentative member of the Labour Party. He is an important man, he is Vice-Chairman.
It is clear now that that the visit of the Holy Father will be the occasion for a major assault by a "grand coalition" of humanist, atheist, feminist, pro-choice and gay-rights organisations.
Right. So how about we all make a bit of an effort for a change not to play up to all their prejudices and expectations? Let's speak modestly, charitably and always with respect for those who nevertheless despise us; unless, of course, we're convinced that their failure to identify Christianity with absolute goodness, truth and beauty is their fault, rather than ours; in which case feel free to cast the first stone.
The last thing any of us needs is a moronic American-style "culture war", because guess what - we'll lose. Christianity as merely one "ideology" among all the rest has already dug its own grave.
Mr Salter dismisses the Holy Father as a bloke in a dress. Do not most (all?) of the Labour wimmin in Parliament wear trousers - especially Miss Harperson? Surely, on balance, he should have mentioned this; but, sadly, balance is not something that many of our MPs have - especially when they are permanently leaning over to the left.
Martin Salter's website lists as 'countries of interest': India, Pakistan, Ireland and Canada.
The interest is, presumably, not reciprocated.
tempus, his interest in those countries is in fishing.
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