Photo Mulier FortisI had a press release sent to me from the LMS
The Sacred Triduum in the Extraordinary Form Will be Celebrated at 8 Locations for 2009
In a sign that the Extraordinary Form of the Roman Rite (Traditional Latin Mass) has returned to the heart of the Church, the Latin Mass Society has announced that the Sacred Triduum in the Extraordinary Form will be celebrated at 8 locations within England and Wales.
In recent years the LMS has organised 2-3 celebrations of the Sacred Triduum each year so 2009 is proving a bumper year – clearly Pope Benedict’s Motu Proprio, ‘Summorum Pontificum’ is having a powerful effect. The full Holy Week ceremonies will be celebrated at Lanherne (Cornwall), Reading, South London, Central London, NW London, Brentwood, Leeds, Shrewsbury. A partial Triduum will be celebrated at Ham, Surrey. A full list is available on the LMS website (http://www.latin-mass-society.org/) or from the LMS office.
IMPORTANT
For many years, the LMS has celebrated the Sacred Triduum at Corpus Christi Church, Maiden Lane, London WC2. Because the Triduum was also celebrated there in the Ordinary Form, the LMS had to arrange its celebrations at unusual times. However, this year, Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O’Connor, Archbishop of Westminster, has graciously arranged that the Ordinary Form congregation of Corpus Christi Church will join the congregation at nearby St Anselm & St Cecilia’s Church in Kingsway for their Ordinary Form Triduum so allowing the Sacred Triduum in the Extraordinary Form to be celebrated at Corpus Christi Church at the usual times (e.g. 3.00 pm on Good Friday).
In a further gesture of reconciliation, Cardinal Cormac has asked one of his priests, Fr Andrew Wadsworth, to celebrate the Corpus Christi Triduum – in previous years the LMS had to make its own arrangements.
John Medlin, General Manager of the LMS said, “We are very grateful to the congregation of Corpus Christi and the parish priest, Fr Chris Vipers, for giving free use of Corpus Christi Church for the Triduum in the Extraordinary Form. We are particularly grateful to Cardinal Cormac for proposing this arrangement and to Fr Wadsworth for coming to join us. Fr Wadsworth knows the Extraordinary Form well and we are looking forward to a wonderful celebration of these Mysteries of our salvation.”
16 comments:
I was at Fr. Andrew's First Mass at Holy Redeemer and S. Thomas More back in 1990. It was a beautiful Latin OF Mass - Allen Hall, notwithstanding!
Father,
Do not forget us in Scotland!
The FSSP community at St Andrew's RC Church, Ravelston, Edinburgh will be once again celebrating Holy Week and the Sacred Triduum.
A warm welcome to everyone who may be in Edinburgh during Easter.
Isn't this the really destructive element of the EF? People now having to go elsewhere in their own parish for the OF Triduum, whilst what I would expect to be largely a group of incomers, coming into their parish for the EF?
Pater Noster,
I think those actually resident in Maiden Lane at week ends and during holidays is not large.
Catholics in Westminster should be grateful to the Cardinal in this instance. Too often traditionalists carp and moan and don't even show basic good manners in the regards to the Bishops.
Could Maiden Lane be on its way to becoming a dedicated EF parish without the need for the extra "versus populum" altar in the sanctuary?
This is great news. Delighted to see Cardinal Cormac M O'C took the initiative. My better half has us praying for him in the family Rosary every night.
Patter Noster
What about the parishioners having to travel 200 miles out of their own parish to get to an EF. Why do you not give a hoot for them. The one-sidedness, pure selfishness and intolerance shown by your views is shocking. It is this hatefulness and lack of charity that shows the truly destructive element of your entrenched blindness. I won't call it the problem of the NO form. No, I'm afraid it is just your own ideology that is the source. How can you begrudge this tiny offering to these poor Catholics who have suffered so much over the past 40 yrs? Open your heart for goodness sake and please stop using fake sympathy for others as a guise for your own hatred of the EF.
Well, Ma Tucker seems to have gotten out of the wrong side of the bed this morning!
"What about the parishioners having to travel 200 miles out of their own parish to get to an EF"
- Well, actually, no-one HAS to drive that far. If one CHOOSES to drive that far then that is their choice. If someone is being told to go from their own parish to somewhere else to celebrate the most solemn feast in the Church's year in a strange parish, then I have a bit of a problem with that.
"Why do you not give a hoot for them."
- The truth is that I do 'give a hoot' about them. I also give a hoot about people who are basically evicted from their parish to accommodate what is likely to be a lot of incomers. Think of it the other way around. Would you like a group of those attached to the NO arriving in your parish which has been celebrating the EF for the past 40 years and booting you out for the Triduum?
"The one-sidedness, pure selfishness and intolerance shown by your views is shocking. It is this hatefulness and lack of charity that shows the truly destructive element of your entrenched blindness."
- Simply not true and actually quite a scandalous thing to say. The issue is not that the EF is being celebrated - I'm all for the Pope's liturgical reforms. The issue is people being forced out of their parish for the sack of another group. It is the only problem I have with the EF - namely, that it has great potential to create a two tier Church. A terrible thing. As for your claim that it is an example of my hatred, I think it is something you should retract, I have no hatred of the EF, those who have an attachment to it, but rather, have a great deal of sympathy for those who do, and also for those being moved to another parish for the greatest celebration of the year. I am disappointed by your remarks in that regard.
"I won't call it the problem of the NO form. No, I'm afraid it is just your own ideology that is the source."
- My own ideology? What would that be based on the above? I think that those who have an attachment to the EF need to realise that the 'rest' of the Church is not against them, but I have the suspicion that some of them kind of like it that way. Your comment above seems to demonstrate that.
"How can you begrudge this tiny offering to these poor Catholics who have suffered so much over the past 40 yrs?"
- See above. It is linked to the great problem of integrating the two forms into the Church - something which has never been done before. The solution cannot be to favour one group over the other, and certainly the status quo of a parish should not be disrupted for the sake of the faithful there.
"Open your heart for goodness sake and please stop using fake sympathy for others as a guise for your own hatred of the EF."
- You are completely wrong. You have twice mentioned my 'hatred' towards the EF based on a 2 sentence comment I made. There is simply no evidence for that in my comment. You have managed to construe from that comment my whole 'ideology' as well as my lack of charity. It would seem to me that, in fact, your comment goes much further in demonstrating a hatred to those not attached to the EF, a certain ideology which places the EF above everything else in the Church even other members of the faithful who are not attached to it and there is certainly a sever lack of charity throughout your post.
PatterNoster
"I have no hatred of the EF...."
You could have fooled me !!. Your rant says otherwise.
To mafeking:
"Your rant says otherwise."
Where?
It is the only problem I have with the EF - namely, that it has great potential to create a two tier Church.
No one asked Paul VI to reform what was not broken. The division comes solely from the liturgical reform itself.
If the 'OF' were being sung in Latin with good music it would probably be superior to the 'EF' Triduum anyway. Remember that the 'EF' Triduum is not traditional but dates from the mid-1950s.
On Maundy Thursday there is very little difference, in the 'OF' one gains an appropriate lesson from Exodus.
On Good Friday in the 'OF' at least the celebrant and ministers wear full vestments again (hopefully one day someone will realise that the red used in many medieval rites during Passiontide was not vermillion 'festive' red but a dull 'ox-blood' colour but that is BTW) whilst in 1962 they just wear stoles for the first part of the service. In the 'OF' Isiah gets substituted for Osee as a first reading. In the 'EF' the celebrant puts on a black cope and then takes it off again for a violet chasuble otherwise the services are very similar. At least in the 'OF' Vexilla regis may be sung (as it was in the Old Rite) during the procession back from the altar of repose.
On Holy Saturday there is a gain in the 'OF' of three more prophecies but not that much difference really.
A decade or so ago a colleague who was one of the MCs at the London Oratory was MC for a 1962 Triduum at Ware. He found it profoundly disappointing and much preferred the LO version.
Now the Old Rite would be worth travelling 200 miles for...
To Ottaviani:
"No one asked Paul VI to reform what was not broken. The division comes solely from the liturgical reform itself."
-That's opinion rather than fact. It's best to stick to the facts and the fact is that there are two forms of the Mass. The division does not come from the liturgical reform, but rather in attitudes that people have towards these reforms. The things I sense certainly from the comments on this post is that there is no desire for some who are attached to the EF to have two forms side by side (which is what the Pope wants). They only want the EF, and those attached to the NO can get stuffed (thus creating a two tier Church). Look at the comments on this page. I think that having both forms of the Mass is workable - and I hope it will work. Is your solution then to scrap the NO, which many more people have an attachment to than the EF?
You will remember that the issue I raised was not one of preferring one form of the Mass over the other, but that of people being forced out of their parish for the Triduum, which I do not think is fair - whoever is being thrown out.
PatterNoster,
What planet are you on? No one is being asked to leave are they? You are making up a completely false and totally unrealistic situation to fake sympathy. Why don't you admit it.
You say I scandalously accuse you of hating the EF. That I should retract this accusuation. May I remind you that you wrote this
"Isn't this the really destructive element of the EF"...(insert fictitious scenario that could never happen as no one would ever boot anyone out of Mass as WE ALL KNOW)
Sorry, but does this not state that there is a really destructive element associated with the EF or am I reading plain English in a completely literal way! Fine if you do not mean what you write I retract, but then please write what you mean.
Yes, I did get out of the wrong side of the bed this morning but that is neither here nor there. The provision for the EF is so pathetic in England especially for Easter. To start moaning about a fictitious scenario that you've made up yourself to protest this speck of a provision seems really spiteful. You talk about a two tier Church. Tell me why on earth do you think a different form of the same Rite would produce a two tier Church? Is this not an ideological position?
Sorry PatterNoster, while I admit to being a little heated it is your own words that betray your position.
"In a further gesture of reconciliation, Cardinal Cormac has asked one of his priests, Fr Andrew Wadsworth, to celebrate the Corpus Christi Triduum – "
Is that the Fr Wadsworth who is Secretary General Designate of ICEL?
Paul,
The same.
PatterNoster
To me the whole tone of your words is anti-EF. You protest the opposite but to be frank I don't believe it when you say it. You are making a mountain out of a mole hill.
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